From EnviroKnow
Who's mad about the Deepwater Horizon disaster? You, apparently.
In a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, 64 percent of responders believe the U.S. government should pursue criminal charges in BP's Deepwater Horizon disaster. Just 28 percent say the government has done a good job of responding to spill, compared to the 16 percent who say BP responded well.
Considering that Deepwater Horizon has continued to gush oil, those numbers from late last week would seem to jibe with earlier reports from Rasmussen that showed 22 percent of responders holding a favorable view of BP. Josh Nelson at EnviroKnow sends the chart above on just who that 22 percent might include. Close your eyes and guess. You'll be right.
After the jump, another EnviroKnow chart comparing this spill to other American oil disasters.
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What a tragedy on a global scale. How can you even measure the damage that is potentially being done beyond the obvious and noticeable.
Repubs and Tea baggers want less gov't, then get mad when gov't doesn't respond quick enough and intervene with this disaster. Quite the contradiction.
The reactions are typical, don't you think?
Regarding the "spill", I mean oil gusher, I've just been sick about it since Day 1. And to think, as someone who lives in southwest Florida & fought the use of fertilizers, herbicides, and insecticides that flow off the golf courses and yards, into the river, & end up in our estuaries, I never envisioned an ecological disaster of these proportions. The latter was/is bad enough creating small dead zones all over the Gulf of Mexico. OMG!
Just you wait FL-Jan, in less than a year from now, BP is going to start advertising itself as a green, environmentally friend company with a massive campaign to try and erase this event from history. They've already tried to hide the scale of destruction it's caused, nothing is going to stop them from hiding this as much as they can.
They are just being opportunistic here. They see a chance to criticize Obama and turn public opinion against him in the hopes they can defeat him in 2012.
President Obama reassures us that the oil will be contained and the spill cleaned up.. eventually. No @!$%#, Obama, but why are we not hearing anything.. . anything at all about safety precautions being tested and mandated before allowing any future off-shore drilling. If we do not change this, we do not change anything.
Interesting gender and age divides. Would have been a more visually useful graph is included all the response options in the stacked bars.
Old white Republican men. My dad is one and I am thankful for that because it keeps me (very smal-ly) open minded, instead of despising, disparaging and dissing an entire cross section of America indiscriminately. However, if it quacks like a duck...
Republicans have decided that they're just going to screw around in the government. So far, the most they've done is pass ridiculous ideas, oppose all progressive actions made by Obama and the Democratic party, bad mouth liberals everywhere, but ultimately have done little to nothing to offer their own.
Government isn't about squatting down and being a stubborn roadblock, it's about debates and conflict with the final goal of working to develop something for the people.
Its just like what Ms. Cheney said...democracy doesn't count if it elects the wrong people. Of course that was about Hamas getting elected, though I guess the same argument could be made for Sinn Fein. I guess she needs to go to Ireland and tell them they are doing it wrong. Clearly Ireland's not ready for democracy either.
old white Republican conservative men... why not just call them C.R.O.Ws so I don't have to type it. This is one of the most meaningless goddamn graphs I've ever seen. And whatever point you're trying to make with it is probably bigoted and misleading. In fact, I think Maddow should change the name of that show from "the Rachel Maddow Show" to "Throw All the White Conservative Men into Shark Infested Waters." As for your source at "EnviroKnow", I'm sure there's a good reason I've never heard of his organization.
Gee Jamie, I thought all you white republican conservative men thought Rasmussen was the holy grail of polling. Or is it only when they're doing their usual right wing slant? If you look at the bottom right side of the top chart - there they are! Since I've seen your name on TRMS facebook posts, it's clear Ms. Maddow pushes your buttons without even trying!
"Throw all the White Conservative Men into Shark Infested Waters"?
You'll have a hard time finding water infested with shark's or any other life form after BP's contribution and "Waterboarding" is illegal, but how about "Surfboarding". Yeah, a good old fashioned Surfboarding... Haley Barbour says the waters fine! You'd trust him, right?
You mean go out into oily water on a surfboard with an old white man strapped under it? I can't help it, the idea makes me smile.
interesting thing is the gop governors on the gulf r screaming for MORE federal involvement.
And don't forget old Bobby Jindal, who is so concerned about the huge economic damage done by the oil gusher that he is demanding that the President end the moratorium on offshore drilling. It's like a gunshot victim who begs for the shooter to shoot him in the head a few times so he'll forget about the gunshot wounds to the rest of his body.
The oil industry has been, is, and will continue to be irresponsible and self-serving. There's a series of "feel good" television ads here in Oklahoma that makes me crazy--the OERB (OK Energy Resources Board) LOVES to tout their "clean-up" program. Oil producers and royalty owners routinely pat themselves on the backs for cleaning up old, abandoned oil well sites--"at no cost to the land owner." Well, excuse me, but aren't you the ones that made the mess in the first place? Shouldn't cleaning it up afterward be the very LEAST we should expect?
Cleaning up afterward simply isn't good enough. I lived in WV for a number of years, and the coal companies "cleaned up" after they had torn apart the mountains after strip mining the coal from them. The reclaimed land looked terrible---as artificial as a tinsel christmas tree. You don't deal with disasters with "cleanup" plans. You have to be proactive, doing absolutely everything in your power to prevent a disaster in the first place, and not proceeding with drilling unless you have a proven, tested plan for dealing with any disaster that does take place. In other words, it needs to be handled in the same way that NASA plans its missions, or the military plans its operations. I'd argue that planning for offshore drilling is far more important than planning for a NASA manned mission. I'm not trying to be callous toward astronauts now, but what happened when the Challenger exploded? Seven people died onboard, but that was the full extent of the disaster. What has happened when the Deepwater Horizon exploded? Eleven people died immediately, and countless birds and fish are also being killed. The economy of the Gulf Coast is being devastated as fishing becomes impossible in more and more of the Gulf, and tourism is taking a bigger and bigger hit as time goes on. Many people will be losing their jobs because of this, (perhaps permanently), and the ecological damage could take decades to heal. So, if NASA can spend billions of dollars and years of efforts by engineers to make spaceflight safer for a mere handful of astronauts, can't we at least require as much from energy companies, where a mistake can cause far more serious and lasting damage to far many more people?
Two (other) interesting things stick out to me: 1. The highest spike of "very positively" was 18-29 year olds. I can't explain that, but it kinda scares me. Perhaps just a low sample size of that group? 2. The graph reversed - that is, the % of people who do not have a favorable view of BP is high accross all groups. Even the highest spike here - "Republicans" - is just 36% of Republicans having a favorable view of BP. That means that even Republicans agree.
Re: Toxicity beyond... The panhandle is a big, big place. There are tar balls reported on Walton Co. beaches, but I haven't seen any on Bay Co. beaches yet. I am posting pics every day on my FB and some on my blog, Southside Atlanta Memories. The Alabama island is pronounced daw-fin.
Thank you so much for your thorough and compassionate and thoughtful coverage of this heartbreaking situation that has already taken eleven lives.
The hopeless of the situation and president Obama's failure to take decisive action, as well as the fact that BOTH mainstream political parties own the failure to monitor and regulate big business, have taught me that even if it doesn't make a difference, I'M VOTING GREEN FROM NOW ON.
Sorry Shelley, but voting Green will get you nowhere. The problem isn't the parties...it's how they finance their election campaigns. In our current system, you need a lot of money to get elected to any kind of office, and the only way to get that is with corporate money, especially since the Citizens United ruling by the Supreme Court. If the Greens take corporate money to get elected, they are no better than either of the other parties, and the result will be the same...corporate-owned government. If they don't take the money, they have no chance of winning an election. The only alternative is to make elections 100% publically financed, with strong caps on how much can be spent on each campaign.
yeah, good media and PR to blame BP for everything, ummm how about going after OBAMA and PALIN and the majority of US citizens who can not give up their cars? no one wants to look guilty in this matter. thank god there was a "foreign" company to blame.
suburbia makes our culture unnecessarily dependent on cars which forces one to drive everywhere for anything w/o public transport options.
No one is forcing anyone to live in suburbia. There's actual cities. Shorter commutes with efficient & clean public transportation, walkable neighborhoods, bike lanes... People can vote for the type of neighborhoods they want built based on where they choose to live. And they can work locally to change the neighborhood they live in to encourage density. mixed use zoning, & redevelopment. There are alternatives to suburban sprawl.
Last week there was a major explosion at a natural gas well in NW Pen. spilling about a million gallons of oil and chemicals mixed with water. The AP first reported it and Michael Morrill tried to investigate it but he was chased off the property. It hasn't been reported on much, and many people in Pennsylvania don't even know it happened. I learned about it here:http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/6/7/873718/-Major-drilling-accident-in-NW-PA.Media-banned-from-site.-Threats-of-shooting,-arrest
Watching the BP disaster, it seems to me that they are not trying to stop the "leak", but are trying to find new ways to still get the oil. All the attempts are to pump it into tankers. I don't think they care at all about the damage it has caused, just that they are losing all that oil, or "MONEY"!
Exactly!! If BP had really wanted to mitigate the damage from the disaster, they would have attempted to cap the well early on in the process. Instead, they waited for over a month before they tried the top kill, and instead kept coming up with "solutions" that continued to bring them in some oil, (just a small portion, as the rest continued to escape into the Gulf). Even now, it is still a siphon operation, not a capping operation. It's nothing short of evil, and I sincerely hope that everyone responsible for this, from BP employees to government employees, will be criminally prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
No one knows how to cap it. If you do, for the love of all that's good and holy, please step forward.
They do, however, know how to change the pressure in the deposit by sucking the oil out, thereby significantly reducing the pressure at the current leak points and reducing the amount of oil that goes into the Gulf. That (hopefully, eventually) makes the oil stop coming out of the holes.
The siphon/cap thing they're using now gets some oil straight into a container - a boat - so that less is going into the gulf. These are solid, scientifically valid methods of mitigating the disaster at this point.
If you know of something faster to make the leak stop or know how it can be capped, please let us know.
Yes, there are a couple of things that would have prevented this whole thing to begin with. They could have checked over the blowout preventer before going any further, but apparently they didn't, and it had some malfuntioning systems onboard. You check your gas tank before you take a long trip, so how damn hard is it to check out your primary means of stopping a blowout before you drill???? Or, you could test out your methods of stopping a leak to see if they work a mile underwater before you actually drill in that depth of water. Or how about doing what Canada does, and require a relief well to be drilled at the same time as the production well? None of this damn stuff is esoteric rocket science...it is common sense! Now we have a siphon that conveniently provides BP with some economic benefit while still spewing even more oil into the Gulf, destroying the livelihoods of thousands of residents for years to come. None of us would be here today hoping for solutions to appear if the folks at BP and in the federal and state governments had been doing their jobs instead of doing all they could to make life as profitable as possible for all of them, the people be damned.
How long do we think Earth will tolerate this abuse from man? If we don't stop this all of our resources will be taken away and thus the present race of man. Like those before us ie cavemen, stone-age people etc.
Well, the first thing to notice is that Rasmussen did the polling. So that means that the amount of anger and disgust toward BP is way under-counted. The Very Favorably and the Somewhat Favorably are skewed way high. Rasmussen is a prostitute for the wingnuts and only gets results that makes them happy. Notice, it doesn't say Somewhat Unfavorably or Very Unfavorable. And if you put those two more factors in, how much you want to bet that the chart would have to be expanded exponentially in the vertical plane just to get the Very Unfavorably to cap. The old saw "Figures don't lie but liars do figure." applies to Rasmussen by a factor of 10.
Interesting. Liberal, black females seem to be the smartest people around.
Now that I believe. I married one.
If the U.S. Government does not use this opportunity to re-think its course on energy resources and change for renewable ones, we're in deep problems.
Why hasn't President Obama done it yet. I know the hawks flying above live out of the black liquid, but this is enough and Obama knows this. Then what is he waiting for?
Please President Obama, use this horrible accident to do something good. STOP ALL TYPES OF OCEAN DRILLING. PLEASE FOR THE FUTURE.
To respond to your article title "Guess who still likes BP", we can determine the following as the answer (the "very" favorable):
Sex: Male
Age: 18-29
Race: No difference
Political Affiliation: No difference
Political Philosophy: Moderate
Good thing that 18-29 year-old male moderates are not your target audience - they might take offense!
Who is your target audience??? Whatever that target is, it's very small and pathetic...much like your show
Why are you reading these post and article if everyone here is pathetic....do you get a cheep thrill out of reading facts and concerns? Go home troll aka nannystatehater...what a name.
somebody said soomething like, (wait until Jan. 2010 and BP will start to advertise themselves as a green corp and enviromentally friendly.... Well, I believe them to be more than likely correct, but THERE SHOULDN'T BE A BP IN 2010.... every penny they make from this point on, should go to undoing whatever damage they've done (whatever damage that is irreversible that is) and to rescuing wildlife and caring for them and paying the folks out of work instead of the taxpayers paying their unemployment. The CEO of BP on his pitiful commercial said, "this oil spill won't cost the tax payers one penny"... How can he say that with a straight face? Just one example is the people that will be out of work that will need our help to live, rightfully so, may I add. I am so sad and mad about this situation that I have to turn my head away from the TV every time they show the gushing oil and especially when they show the suffering animals. I still can't fully comprehend that this is really happening!
Dear NannyStateHater: Your name says it all, you are indeed a HATER... Rachel and Keith and MSNBC for that matter go by the facts and don't fear monger and bash and bash and bash like Fox News does every minute of every day... Rachel is anything, but "pitiful" as you call her... She is smarter then all the crude intolerant haters on fox put together. It's a shame that you are so full of hate and intolerance for others. I'm sure Rachel does not hate you and the difference between you and her, is that I'm sure that she respects your oppinion, you should try it one day... I'm be sincere when I say, it must really suck to live with so much hate and misery. Good luck with that. Rachel, your supporters love you enough to make up for all their disgusting hate..... xoxo love ya, Patrick, Toledo, OH.. Watch you every nite. :-)
Go Rachel...one day you will be the most respected name in news. And with the blamestream media named Fox you really have no competition.
Why isn't Fox forced to regulate themselves more? They are obviously a 24 hour ad for the republican party and its hate hungry ignorant viewers.
Another thing I keep hearing the teabaggers talk about is a violent or bloody taking of their government back. Be careful old white guys there are a lot of angry young people of all colors that are getting tired of all your hate, denied housing, decent wages, good schools and the things they need to raise families.