Back in March, Major Mike Almy told the Senate Armed Services Committee the story of how he'd been booted from the military under Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Almy was found out when someone searched his personal e-mail while he was on duty in Iraq. Listening to him that day was Sen. John McCain (R-Arizona), the ranking minority member.
When Major Almy heard Sen. McCain (R-AZ) say last week that the military doesn't seek out suspected soldiers and doesn't search their personal e-mail, he was amazed. As you can see why in the video above.
Bonus: Nathaniel Frank, author of Unfriendly Fire: How the Gay Ban Undermines the Military and Weakens America, sends a report (pdf) on how the military does in fact seek out troops suspected of being gay. What follows, after the jump, is an excerpt:
From Nathaniel Frank:
[H]undreds of indisputable violations of the policy's strictures against asking, pursuing and harassing have been documented each year since its birth in 1994. The Servicemembers Legal Defense Network (SLDN), a watchdog and legal aid organization that has monitored the effects of the policy since its inception, reported 340 command violations (perpetrated by the military) in the first year alone, including fifteen actual or attempted "witch hunts" and ten death threats to service members for perceived homosexuality. For the first three years, SLDN documented 1146 violations, with the number increasing each of those years. The abuses of "don't ask" have ranged from the purposeful to the neglectful to the vicious. Examples documented by SLDN include the continued use of outdated documents asking recruits if they were gay (as late as 2002, the Air Force was found to be using a fifteen-year-old form that asked recruits "are you homosexual or bisexual?"); routine flouting of the "don't ask" principle by simply asking service members, "are you gay?" or substitute questions such as asking men, "do you find men attractive?"; violating the prohibition on asking about sexual identity in security clearance inquiries by asking if applicants are in "a physical relationship" with a roommate of the same sex; and mocking "don't ask" with questions such as, "I'm not going to ask you if you're homosexual, but if I did ask, how would you respond?"[ii]
Sometimes the questions were hostile. A chief of boat shouted to a sailor, "You [sic] not going to tell me you're a @!$%#ing faggot, are you?" A Marine recruiter said, "Because of President Clinton's new policy, I can't ask you if you're a fag. So I'll just ask if you suck cock." Other times the hostility was less overt, but with the same effect, as when an officer told a woman under his command, "I know you're a lesbian," leaving her tongue-tied and unsure of the consequence of his statement. Still other times, the sheer repetition of infractions wore troops down and out. At San Antonio's Lackland Airforce Base, where some of the worst and highest number of violations took place, unit members asked an airman if he was gay so many times that he simply acknowledged the truth, and lost his job. A sailor was asked if she had "ever told anyone on the ship that you are gay." Despite the blatant violation the question constituted, her captain threatened her with criminal prosecution if she did not answer the question or if she made false statements. The threat itself was also completely forbidden under the policy, but the pressure was too much for the sailor, who admitted she was a lesbian and was quickly thrown out.[iii]
The limits on pursuits have been even more flagrantly ignored. Investigators have seized letters, diaries, books, magazines, computers, even posters of lesbian singers, including Melissa Etheridge and k.d. lang, in an effort to determine service members' sexuality and past history. In 1996, an Air Force Major, for example, was investigated on criminal charges of sodomy after the clerk at the local MotoPhoto store saw fit to make an extra copy of his pictures--nothing sexual, just the major with his arm around another man--and sent them to the Office of Special Investigations. In the Navy, a commander read through the medical records of one sailor and started discharge proceedings after noticing treatment of a medical condition associated with gay men. For the discharge investigation of a Marine corporal, inquiry officers counted among admissible evidence attendance at the Dinah Shore golf tournament and buying Anne Rice novels. Such unfounded extrapolations from the slimmest bits of "evidence," such wild and groundless speculation based on nothing but stereotypes, were clearly violations of "don't pursue."[iv]
When Airman Sonya Harden was investigated, the "credible evidence" that began the process was a third party accuser who was in an ongoing quarrel with Harden over money. Harden insisted she was straight, and brought ex-boyfriends to testify on her behalf. Eventually, her accuser admitted she was lying when she charged that Harden was in a lesbian relationship, and that her motive was retaliation for the financial dispute. Harden was discharged anyway, despite the recanted charge and the testimony of ex-boyfriends.[v]
The misuse, abuse and neglect of evidence in discharge proceedings should come as no surprise given the make-up of all too many of the discharge boards. In reviewing colonels who were up for board of inquiry spots, one said, "I think homosexuals are immoral," another said he thought they "have either a physiological or psychological problem as deviant from society," and a third said "my religious beliefs are against homosexuality." The three colonels were placed on the board. "I think it would be hard to find three board members that would have an opinion different from those already expressed," commented the lieutenant colonel responsible for choosing the board.[vi]]
With such attitudes rampant throughout the military leadership, suspected and accused service members rarely stood a chance. But if violations of "don't pursue" referred to over-zealous investigations of friends and family on flimsy evidence, full-scale "witch hunts" were used to describe expanding webs of inquiry that sought to pressure military members to turn one another in by "naming names." The notorious witch hunts were rampant in the years prior to "don't ask, don't tell" and were a major impetus behind reform, with its promises of a "zone of privacy." But throughout the 1990s, little changed, and in some ways, things got worse: the venomous rhetoric of the cultural and political debate around gay service, together with the bitterness felt by many in the military who resented what they perceived as the imposition of social change by military outsiders, raised temperatures on this issue, and shone a spotlight on the elephant in the room--who might be gay among us?
The United States Military Academy at West Point is the elite training ground for U.S. army officers. Like all military commands, West Point has extensive counseling available to ensure the well-being of service members. So when Cadet Nikki Galvan's mother died, an academy counselor was available to help her deal with her grief, and suggested she keep a journal as part of her mourning process. In it, Galvan confided, or so she thought, about a number of very private emotions she was facing, and one of these was her sexuality. Not long after she started her journal, she was asked point blank—in front of four other cadets—if she was a lesbian by her lieutenant colonel. Instead of answering, Galvan submitted a complaint. But rather than taking action against the improper questioning of Galvan, the Army seized her personal diary and private emails under a pretext that officials were investigating a reported "disturbance in the ranks." An investigation ensued, whose report reads that Galvan "violate[d]" regulations "by making various statements in her diary indicating a propensity or intent to engage in homosexual acts or conduct." Galvan said she felt "violated and humiliated,'' and that her friends stopped talking to her out of fear they would be suspected of being gay. ''My cadet life became unbearable,'' she remembered. Facing a discharge, Galvin resigned. West Point tried to recoup $100,000 in tuition funds, based on failing to honor the service obligation that cadets incur by attending for free. Her departure ended an excruciating ordeal for her, but marked just the beginning for West Point, where officials expanded the investigation into an outright witch hunt that took aim at thirty other women at the academy.[vii]
The West Point witch hunt sparked by Galvan's ordeal was more the rule than the exception. In the spring of 1994, military investigators interrogated over twenty marines about their sexual orientation. One was thrown in a military jail for over a month. Another had his bed turned on its side, his private possessions ransacked and his personal computer confiscated. The navy admitted the next year that it had engaged in a witch hunt, but--with no punishment for wrongful investigations—no one in the military was held accountable or suffered any consequences, besides the marine who languished in the brig for a month of his life, and the rest of the troops who were terrified into a state of permanent insecurity.[viii]
Later that same year, a young soldier serving in South Korea endured a horrendous ordeal when she was assaulted by a group of male soldiers who also threatened to rape her. Her resistance prompted her attackers to spread lies that she was a lesbian. This phenomenon, known as lesbian-baiting, is one of the most troubling abuses of the gay ban, when men whose advances are rebuffed accuse women of being lesbians, out of retaliation or wounded ego (some men, no doubt, have convinced themselves that any woman who refuses their charms must not be straight). Again and again, female service members who report harassment, even rape, end up the target of threatened and actual investigations into their sexuality. And several of these victims, like the soldier in South Korea, were straight. When she reported the incident, her commanding officer turned on her, accusing her of being gay and threatening her with prison if she did not admit it and identify other service members suspected of being gay. A military judge dismissed the charges due to lack of evidence, but her command would not let up, starting administrative discharge proceedings against her. Only after enormous legal intervention by SLDN and great financial cost to the soldier's family did the Army relent, allowing the harrowing experience to end with a delayed transfer to a new command.[ix]
One of the largest witch hunts unfolded in Sardinia, Italy early in 1996, aboard the U.S.S. Simon Lake. Prompted by questions directed at Seaman Amy Barnes, Navy personnel expanded their inquiry to encompass a shocking sixty women on the ship. In sworn affidavits, sailors alleged that the Navy intimidated, threatened and harassed them in an effort to force them to out themselves or others. "If you do not tell the truth, you will go to jail for 10-15 years, one investigator told Heather Hilbun, before she was grilled on her own sexuality and that of six other named women. "Command Investigators threatened and intimidated me into giving involuntary statements," testified another, "by telling me I would be violating Article 78 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and would go to jail if I did not answer their questions." The sailor commented that "being forced into giving statements which had the potential to be used against RMSN Barnes, who is my friend, was extremely upsetting." Unchastened, the Navy argued in court that service members had "no legal basis upon which to challenge" the extraordinary scope of the investigation, as the current rules "create no enforceable rights" for those who get caught in the military's intrusive net.[x]
During the same period in early 1996, the Air Force showed exactly what their priorities were in the age of "don't ask, don't tell." Airman Bryan Harris faced life in prison for the accused rape another man and other related charges. Because Harris was gay, his sex life was seen as an invitation for investigators to catch other gays in the military--even if it meant drastically reducing his punishment for a real crime in exchange for learning the names of men who simply happened to be gay. Late in January, Air Force lawyers struck a deal with Harris to give him just a 20-month sentence if he named all the men he had had sex with in the military. Of the seventeen men he named, five were in the Air Force (the rest were in other service branches), and each was promptly rounded up and charged with homosexual conduct. Questions in the Air Force investigations into Harris' peers included asking co-workers if they would be "surprised to find out that" the airmen were gay, if the airmen ever talked about women, "you know, the way men talk about women," where and with whom the airmen hung out, and if it would seem "unusual" for the airmen not to have girlfriends--all bald violations of guidelines restricting questions about orientation or about events outside the circumstances in question. Four were fired. The fifth was court-martialed in a criminal trial, and terrorized by word from officials that he could get thirty years in prison--for consensual sex with another man. Eventually he was allowed to leave the military without serving jail time.[xi]
[i] Senate Committee on Armed Services, Policy Concerning Homosexuality, 1993, 709.
[ii] "Conduct Unbecoming: The First Annual Report," 1995; "Conduct Unbecoming: The Second Annual Report on 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'" (Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, report 1996); "Conduct Unbecoming: The Third Annual Report on 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'" (Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, report 1997); "Conduct Unbecoming: The Ninth Annual Report on 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'" (Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, report 2003).
[iii] "Conduct Unbecoming: The First Annual Report," 1995; "Conduct Unbecoming: The Fifth Annual Report," 1999; "Conduct Unbecoming: The Second Annual Report," 1996; "Conduct Unbecoming: The Third Annual Report," 1997.
[iv] "Conduct Unbecoming: The Second Annual Report," 1996; "Conduct Unbecoming: The Third Annual Report," 1997.
[v] "Conduct Unbecoming: The Fifth Annual Report," 1999.
[vi] "Conduct Unbecoming: The Third Annual Report," 1997.
[vii] Carolyn Lochhead, "Defense Secretary Says He Will Correct Treatment of Gays," San Francisco Chronicle, February 27 1997; "Conduct Unbecoming: The Third Annual Report," 1997; "Conduct Unbecoming: The Fifth Annual Report," 1999.
[viii] "Conduct Unbecoming: The Second Annual Report," 1996; "Conduct Unbecoming: The Fifth Annual Report," 1999.
[ix] "Conduct Unbecoming: The Second Annual Report," 1996.
[x] "Conduct Unbecoming: The Third Annual Report," 1997.
[xi] J. Jennings Moss, "Losing the War," Advocate, April 15, 1997; "Conduct Unbecoming: The Third Annual Report," 1997.





McCain is just going to say anything to get elected, and his daughter just goes to Las Vegas instead of taking on Coultergeist. I think that TMRS was taken for a ride by Ms. McCain's appearance on the show; her feet should have been held to the fire, instead of the insidious book pimp that happened. I hope that this is never repeated on the show. How can anyone be surprised by what McCain says? His daughter is just a tool. The war against DADT is a serious, life changing fight that is going to take every American standing up to say that "this is wrong!" period...........So let's fight this, right now!
Sadly, it doesn't seem as if the truth registers with McCain. He can just pound his fist and say "it's not the policy, it's not the policy," as if saying it over and over makes it true. By the the media catches up with his lie (if they ever actually do), the story is "old." The truth has become a victim of the 24 hour news cycle.
Imagine if this guy were president right now? Palin being vice president aside, wouldn't this be a lot like Bush? Telling people the way it is, when it isn't?
I recently read a quote, I believe it was the prime minister of Canada. It was something along the lines of "Citizens who have to fight for their rights, but can have them easily taken away are in a problem country." Isn't this what we're going through.... again?
rights are never taken away..just deemed illegal.
M.Cooper - Not sure about that quote, but it was definitely a Canadian politician who said:
We take the position that there is no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation.
He was paraprhasing a recent editorial from the Golbe and Mail newspaper. It was Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau...in 1967!
Google: "Army Regulation 600-20 paragraph 4-19" is the homosexual conduct policy. I'm not saying that I agree with it, but I have no choice to but to enforce it unless the law is changed. As stated in the regulation, an investigaiton is to be conducted if credible information is received by the command that someone has conducted a homosexual act. We are an Army that follows laws and orders and that's what keeps you safe. We could be much more like the Iraqi or Afghan armies and do whatever the hell we want, laws and orders be damned, but that wouldn't do America much good.
Bottom line is: If you, the American people, don't like the law then get it changed. If you can't then let the majority's will be done. We do what we are ordered to do by law from congress and by order from the President. Don't blame the military for your inability to get the political to meet the practical.
We are trying to change it but we have Senators in Congress who are discussing what should not be their problem or its concern...Military men and women are trained to respect authority and abide by the military rules. So it is much harder for them to fight against something when they took an oath to respect the laws in place for armed services...What do you call it...oh yes..insubordination with a superior officer. Military men and women cannot freely voice their opinion without repercussions. Everyday citzens seem to be the ones fighting to reveal the truth..I mean do you expect all military personnel in favor of the repealing the DADT to set down their weapons, disobey orders and come to Washington to talk about this issue..no you don't because it is unimportant on the field.....
The problem is, if a military person comes out and testifies, they will then be investigated and then kicked out for the testimony they gave under oath. We have no choice, our hands are tied.
Really, that statement above is my plea to everyone that cares to get this changed because most soldiers don't care. Really, they don't. We live in the year 2010 not 1951. I've served with gay soldiers, the whole unit knew they were gay (commander was kind of naive) and no one cared. No one complained. No one ever even mentioned it, obviously. I don't care.
Just give me soldiers that can pass a physical fitness test and aren't 70 lbs overweight. How about we start kicking those people out and keeping the fit ones in no matter what their sexual preference? Really the bigger threat to national security is the obesity epidemic not who soldiers are kissing. And I'm not joking.
no only the obese but the ones who are getting passes under their evaluation because they are physically involved with the Sergeant... that happens as well. Officers are not getting the proper training and the proper evaluations because of personal relationships...that is a problem too.
After reading the actual governing rules, doesn't this divide the military?
"(4) Credible information. Credible information exists, for example, when—
(a) A reliable person states that he or she observed or heard a Soldier engaging in homosexual acts or saying that he
or she is a homosexual or bisexual or is married to a member of the same sex.
(b) A reliable person states that he or she heard, observed, or discovered a Soldier make a spoken or written
statement that a reasonable person would believe was intended to convey the fact that he or she engages in, attempts to
engage in, or has the propensity or intent to engage in homosexual acts.
(c) A reliable person states that he or she observed behavior that amounts to a nonverbal statement by a Soldier that
he or she is a homosexual or bisexual (that is, behavior that a reasonable person would believe intended to convey the
statement that the Soldier engages in, attempts to engage in, or has the propensity or intent to engage in homosexual
acts)."
This sounds a lot to me like everyone in the military can act as a spy against a homosexual or bisexual person. Do we really need to add more anxiety to service members?
Politically speaking does it really matter whether they're gay or not?
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To be honest with you, I have been in the Army 11 years and have never known anyone kicked out under the Homosexual conduct policy. I have never even seen it used or seen an investigation take place based on homosexual conduct. I've been in every type of unit from combat arms to logistics. I have been enlisted, an officer and a commander. It's not used as often as people would like to make it out. We lose more soldiers to suicide and car accidents than we do to DADT. I was in Iraq for 15 months when we were losing, on average, 100 service members or more per month so maybe my view is skewed.
I wonder if it is possible to bring forth a former colleauge of McCain who is gay. He acts as if Gays truely play a part in how service is done. I have friends in the military and they all say that doesn't matter to them...As long as when they are on the battlefield is that person gonna cover their assets. Seriously though, maybe we should talk to one of McCAins battlefield buddies and reveal he was gay and lets see how high and mighty McCain really does act...
This isn't shocking because in my opinion, McCain isn't the brightest bulb on the tree anyway. One thing that should be mentioned is the young people in the service need to stand up for their rights. Accusing a soldier, sailor, airman or marine of anything without proof is a violation of the UCMJ. These troops need to familiarize themselves with these laws that can get them kicked out as well as protect them. It is also important for them to know THEY SHOULDN'T BE FOLLOWING ANY ILLEGAL ORDER. It is illegal to ask, therefore it is illegal to answer. Quite frankly, if they do answer, they shouldn't be discharged because the question alone was illegal (kind of like enforcing an illegal contract).
I would personally like to know why the department of defense wants to survey troops about how they feel having a gay person next to them. Where is the survey asking them how they feel about deploying 2, 3 and 4 times? Are those feelings not equally important? How do they feel about the divorce and suicide rates being through the roof? No, no one will ask that, but it's terribly important how the MORALE may be brought down by homosexuals. Seems like their priorities are questionable at best in my book. The should be asking how losing your family, your limbs, your job and your mind might be bringing down morale.
It's all nothing more than a bunch of conservative psycho-babble that isn't worthy of the defense these service members provide (heterosexual or homosexual).
The biggest bit of hypocrisy is that DADT requires soldiers to violate all 7 of the Army values.
Loyalty:
Duty:
Respect:
Selfless Service:
Honor:
Integrity:
Personal courage:
@da big bad Higgy, well said! I am a veteran and my spouse is a retired service member who now works with "wounded warriors"--everything you mentioned is what they are experiencing right now. Emotional wounds, divorce, economic woes, rapid and numerous deployments...the powers that be do not want to question anyone about this because they would rather cover it up by giving diagnoses' like adjustment disorder rather than PTSD, or find new and inventive ways to cover up the suicide rates..anyway, thank your for this post, you are spot-on.
Hmm... the "only obeying orders" defence to indefensible behaviour... I seem to remember that didn't work so well in the late 1940s.
Separate to that, since some of those participating in this prejudiced system have clearly violated the order not to ask, what reasons have the military given for not prosecuting these people for violating such orders not to ask? (After all, if they don't *like* these orders, then it is apparently incumbent upon them to try to get the law changed, is it not?)
It seems that even with the concentration-camp-guard mentality being shown in the witch-hunting of gay people serving their country, some rules shall be enforced with tremendous vigour, whilst others are conveniently ignored.
This is a disgraceful situation and a national shame. CAN YOU IMAGINE if this blatent prejudice was shown against another minority group in the armed services - well I guess it wasn't so long ago really, was it?
PS - here in the UK gay people have been allowed to be "out" since 1999. There have been no significant lapses in cohesion, security or discipline as a result. I'm not saying the 2 cultures of the UK and USA are equivalent, but UK gays were hounded in a similar way by the military police prior to our ban being lifted (having been forced to by Europe, God bless them!). Now they can concentrate on actual crime and discipline, rather than nosing into people's private, bedroom, consensual leanings.
Let's all ask McCain to provide us with evidence that his statements are true, other than - "I know the military very well." Where is his evidence? Let's ask him - http://www.johnmccain.com/issues/share-your-thoughts/
I am Glad that another Blogger blogged about Megan McCain, I Always Felt the Same Way. She is Just Looking to Sell Books and Become Famous on her Daddy's Name. Not that there is Anything Wrong with that---- but Her with the NoH8 Campaign, Whatever??? And Her Father Being the Hardest-Nosed Pompous Maverick A-Hole That he is????
The Most Unfair--- is the ( Third Party ). They are Vulnerable--- if they are Not Liked for Whatever Reason--- or if Someone Wants to Beat them to a Promotion--- Easy--- Just Have them Kicked OUt for being gay. It is a Very Unfair Situation.
But Being Positive---- Hopefully the (Witt Standard) Will Change This!!!! Be Positive! Is McCain Already Working on Opposing Any Angles of the (Witt Standard)??? You Betcha!!!! The Man Spends Every Waking Hour Thinking of DADT
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How could McCain know this? His military service predated DADT. Yet he claimed to know this from first hand experience in combat how DADT was implemented. He is a blustering walrus.
I used to hold respect for McCain. Now he comes across as a pathetic old man who has ditched his ideals to suck up to tea-partiers. Like McCain I served in the military before gays were allowed in the military. In practice, however we actually had a real don't ask, don't tell as many were aware there were some gays among us but we didn't make a big deal about it.