The same Georgia state lawmaker who wants payments to the state made in gold and silver and abortion classed as "prenatal murder" is back, with a proposal to get rid of driver's licenses.
Georgia State Rep. Bobby Franklin is sponsoring the Right to Travel Act, which includes this clause:
Free people have a common law and constitutional right to travel on the roads and highways that are provided by their government for that purpose. Licensing of drivers cannot be required of free people because taking on the restrictions of a license requires the surrender of an inalienable right.
He can't be serious, right?
"One of your inalienable rights is the right to travel, the right to move about without needing your papers," Franklin told WSB in Atlanta. "You shouldn't have to have permission from the state to exercise a right that has been inalienably given to you from your creator."
And where have we heard this kind of argument before? From right-wing extremists like the Montana Freemen. Scott Roeder, the man who murdered abortion provider Dr. George Tiller in 2009, explained it in a 1996 interview on the Uncle Ed Show.
"Well, actually, I think it comes down to our God-given rights, and one of those is the God-given to travel," he said. "What the state has done is turn that into a privilege to drive. And how they do that is through our driver's license, when we sign for our license....Traveling as a right, you're not encumbered by licensing, registration, insurance. You know, people today say that we're free. Some still believe that we're free. And I urge anyone who thinks they're free to drive down the road without a driver's license."
No one's saying Rep. Franklin and Scott Roeder are the same cat, only that they're arguing this one same point.
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I see that the "Traffic regulations are an infringement of my individual liberties...anybody that doesn't like the way I drive can stay off the roads" crowd is becoming more vocal and more brazen.
Believe me, drivers' licenses or not, Georgia drivers do believe that traffic regulations are for someone else. I have been here over 2 years now and I've come up with a succinct statement about the roads here: Georgia drivers practice random acts of driving.
It is not safe to be on the roads when it snows - in our last little white mishap, not only was mail not delivered ("sleet, snow, dead of night" HA); but there were PSAs on local stations explaining that drivers should remove snow/ice from cars before driving, and this only came up because of the thousands of windshields that were cracked by ice/snow zipping into the cars behind.
Lovely land, beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Aggregate IQ, minus my friends/family and the major universities: about 60.
Removal of snow/ice from your vehicle before driving is the law in New Jersey, and just last Saturday I saw several cars pulled over on the NJ Turnpike with police right behind, the drivers out scraping and brushing the frozen precip from their vehicles.
It must not be the law in Kansas. I have driven behind portable blizzards on the highway and have seen people going down the street in a snow covered car with only a tiny circle right in front of driver seat scraped off their windshield.
I would think it wouldn't need to be a law, but would be common sense, if you live in a climate that has such things as snow. Being a California Beach kid, I don't have all the rules at hand because I never needed them. I fear that with climate change, there will be a bunch of people, like my new Georgian neighbors, who will have to learn to deal with things like snow.
Atlanta was having internecine battles about who would remove snow from the streets (is it a state street because ATL is the capital; or is it a city service), what kind of stuff to put on the streets to melt the snow; waited too long to do it, and there was ice beneath the snow. The snowplow operators didn't have a clue (I don't actually think they were using the right equipment) and scraped all of the Bott's Dots off of the lane markers. One person actually said that they would have to talk to their colleagues up north about how this is done. I can imagine how that will go over with supervisors because no one here believes that Yankees can do anything.
@RaisedByWolves, another reason North Florida is referred to as (South-) South Georgia
Personally, my favourite nickname for northern FL is "the Bible Groin."
ROFLMAO!
that one's new to me. OMG! =)
LOL - I've been laughing about the confluence of buildings here: Big Hair Salon next to whatever Christian Church. Oh, and a BBQ place. I can attest to the fact that the BBQ places are all pretty good.
I am also a little tired of having to give my credentials: bio-dad born in GA and not being a Yankee, but a Californian. And why oh why does my "no solicitors" sign have an invisibility button when it comes to the evangelicals? I let my hubby talk to them because I would get on a goddess-based rant and end up with a cross burning in our yard.
That is why you ALWAYS answer the door NAKED. Always! They were warned No Solicitors, they knock at their own risk.
LOL Don, I always used to put a chalk outline on my porch with some pamphlits scattered around. Then if they did knock I would answer the door with my hair messed up and a wild eyed look on my face and say, "Are you here to raise the Devil?". usually they would leave after a few minutes of ranting on my part.
That works too.
I always liked answering the door and asking in hushed tones "Are you with THEM?" while staring up in the sky through the roof. Then still in hushed tones and crouching still looking upwards "Get down! They're watching!" ... "Did you hear THAT?!" ... "SHHHH! They'll hear!". They never stick around long.
LOL, at 64, I imagine I would be giving nightmares to the strongest of them! Skyclad is the way I love to roam my home, but answering the door would be a hoot! Something to think about!
I can't recommend it enough!
And yet I have heard right wingers, even on this site, say that driving IS a privilege not a right. They bring that up when the discussion is about the individual mandate in the healthcare law. They say the government has no right to force you to buy health insurance, we respond that the government forces you to buy auto insurance, and they respond that driving is a choice, a privilege and not a right. I guess someone has their talking points mixed up today.
Hi Uffdaguy,
Driving is a privilege, not a right. That isn't an opinion but a legal fact - try getting away with driving without a license and arguing "rights" as your defense. Call the most liberal (or right wing) attorney you can find and ask them about it.
Also, I believe the Fed does not have the right to force you to buy any insurance but I must own that there is absolutely nothing restricting a state's right to do just that. There is a big LEGAL difference between the two ideas.
Also, you do not have to carry car insurance anywhere unless you drive - I live in NYC and don't own a car and do not carry car insurance.
I meant to add that this guy is a total wing nut - we all have them and they are almost always in the House. You guys have Kucinich, sometimes Weiner and Hank Johnson - the guy who thought Guam might capsize!!! You know who our nuts are, so I won't enumerate.
@PeterMac - You could classify Kucinich as a wingnut, but not Weiner (in my book at least). He is just one Democrat that isn't afraid to yell and scream right back at the GOP. I know it makes him seem crazy (plus most Dems are so passive that it makes him stick out like a sore thumb), the way he acts, but if you look at his policy positions and ideals he is right in line with the progressive movement. Wing nut implies believing in crazy policies, not just being passionate and animated.
Peter, you may want to note the discussion on this thread of federally-mandated flood insurance.
My GOD its good to be back. I'd been suspended from the blog for overly vociferious language on Last Word blog. You wouldn't believe the free range trolls they have skulking around over there. There go the claims that only Conservatives and Right-wingers have their postings removed and the posters banned, albeit temporarily.
I'M BAAAAACK!!!
As far as the subject at hand goes, it is part and parcel for repeal of Healthcare reform. Granted the corellation may not jump out at you...but the judge who ruled on HC Reform said it was unconstitutional to for people to punished for not buying insurance. Ergo, it is implicit that compulsory auto-insurance is unconstitutional. And from there only a half-step to say that driver's licenses are as well
Glad you're back from purgatory, Don Q.
Personally, I just can't stomach that blog. I tried it when The Last Word first started, but there are just TMT (too many tr0lls).
Welcome back from Blog Jail, Don!
Jumping in with this: I've had the privilege v. right thing brought up by the righties when we argue gun control, too. To my way of thinking it doesn't signify because the government regulates insurance and licenses dangerous pursuits and professions under others of its Constitutional powers.
So here is what I want to know: in what way is any of this libertarian/ rightie/Tea stuff consistent? If drivers' licenses are a violation of your rights, why aren't you out there protesting SB1080 in Arizona? The Constitution doesn't specify that "rights" only pertain to some people in America and not to others -- or at least it hasn't since we abolished slavery and established universal sufferage.
I said this in the other thread as well.
by the way, welcome back, DonQ!
The parallel between car and health insurance is marginal. However, the individual mandate (if applied to car insurance the way it is applied in the HC law) would force you to buy auto insurance even if you don't own a car and don't have a driver's license, based on the reasoning that
a) you COULD drive so should be part of the "driving pool" and help keep everyone's auto insurance rates lower.
b) your choice not to buy insurance because you choose not to own a car is economic activity that can be regulated under the commerce clause.
/not serious/ I wonder what the people in NY would say if they were force to buy auto insurance when they don't own a car?
/serious/
Parsed that way, it's clear to see how quickly the auto insurance parallel falls apart. In the law specifics are very important, and how a judge rules is based in part on how the arguments of each side are presented. As the judge points out in his decision, congress knew when they passed this law that it tread on new constitutional ground. So we should not be surprised that different judges may rule on the law differently or that it will ultimately be settled by the Supreme Court.
True, but I've seen worse slippery slope arguments gain better traction. I had already thought of the auto-insurance argument by myself and find jack-ass arguing against even driver's licenses. I just had to run with it. Good to see you John.
Welcome back Don Q.
This whole thing is a great use of our legislature's time and money, not to mention the courts. :/
@Don - Hello and welcome back!
@Uffdaguy, I have never paid for federally mandated flood insurance and I don't ever have to. Neither do you or anyone else here. That is not the same thing as what we are talking about here, though it seems similar. What we are talking about here is if they were to make me (and you) buy flood insurance even though we own no real estate, but simply by virtue of the fact we are alive and living in the U.S. and may someday own real estate.
@Bolbis, yes, I guess that you are correct. Excuse me. What I meant was more that his views are not in the mainstream, not that he was crazy like the guy this piece is about. That said, even though I almost never agree with Weiner, he is one of the smartest guys in the House and I like him. I would, until the lawsuit thing, have classified Kucinich similarly. The truth is Hank Johnson is just a base moron who votes whichever way he is told and that is why they support him each time.
Have a nice night!
@ Don - There is a difference between what is a right for the state and what is a right for the Fed. If the right is not reserved to the Fed..you know the rest. That is a very big difference that people keep ignoring. It is in no way unconstitutional for a state to force you to pay for car insurance IF you own a car. They can even force you to pay a HUGE premium directly to the state (not commercial) on top of your regular insurance if you have been in trouble. The state cannot, theoretically, make you buy car insurance if you do not own a car or drive one. No state has ever tried to do that as far as I know.
It was just a thought experiment. I'm just shocked that someone apparently took the same thought I did and ran even further with it...and had thought about making it law. Its as scary as it funny.
I think the difference between car insurance vs. health insurance is that theoretically, even if you do not own a car but you still drive one because you have a license, that car will still be covered by whoever owns it. So even if someone without insurance borrows a car, the insurance will still cover at least liability should something happen.
Bodies are not so uncomplicated. Unlike driving a car, which you can voluntarily refrain from if you can't afford the insurance, you can't will yourself not to get sick. And if you discover you have a major disease and are without insurance, no insurance company will willingly take you on, which leaves the tax payers helping pay your bills. If you have no insurance and you have a terrible accident at work or something, the tax payers or other insured people have to help cover the costs incurred by emergency room visits of the uninsured. So in the interest of ensuring the general welfare of the people, I think the government has every right to mandate that everyone have insurance.
I think the comments are going off the rails a little bit with all the stuff about insurance and individual mandates. This garbage about no drivers' licences isn't even in the same galaxy as that debate.
Peter comes closest to the heart of things when he observes that the federal government and state governments have different types of powers. But that still doesn't quite get there.
There are differing ideas in this country about where political supremacy lies. The mainstream, and Constitutional view, would be that while there are things states may do that the federal government may not, the federal government is supreme over the states (because the supremacy clause says so).
Moving rightward, there is the idea currently the domain of 'tenthers', which holds that the states hold supreme power. That would be a valid idea of the Articles of Confederation were still in force, except they're not. Further to the right there is the baseless assertion of Posse Comitatus-types that the counties are supreme. And there's the sovereign-citizen nonsense that's even further to the right.
All that is worth bearing in mind.
To me, 'tenthers' are far-right fringers. From the perspective of the 'tenthers', supposing they see themselves as mainstream, the sovereign-citizen bunch are the fringe of the fringe. This Franklin guy is flirting with sovereign-citizen ideas: the fringe of the fringe of the fringe. A wingnut's wingnut. And apparently that's no bar to holding public office in Georgia these days.
I don't know if it's fair to label this guy as a right-winger, although you would be correct that on the political scale spectrum he'd be on the very, very fringe. I believe, personally, that when you're advocating for a confederacy or some other type of government you no longer are talking about the American political body. The only way for us to have a confederacy, the only way for the reality of "states have the power and they agree to give some up to the federal government," is to completely throw out the Constitution, completely dismantle the current US government, and install something entirely different. This to me puts what he and others like himself are advocating in their own political spectrum of nuttiness. I mean what he wants, the government that he is looking for, is not the United States of America. He is looking for an entirely different government, an entirely different system. And that to me means he doesn't get the privilege of being listed on the normal scale of American political philosophy.
Yeah that was tried with the Articles of Confederation. It didn't work at the time so the Constitution was born. it would work just as well if they tried it again.
no, they have their blackwhite/doublethink down pat.
Get a bike.
One good thing would be no more lawnmowers to dodge coming out of dank little bars and quickiemarts, now the drunks could drive cars again. Woo! :/
this guy doesn't look like he knows how.
I should have the right to drive without being able to see or read. If I run a pedestrian over that's not my fault- the God given right to travel only applies to driving, not walking.
You crack me up, MickeyM!
If we all have the inalienable right to travel, then my next plane ticket should be free, then eh? Who's for a Vegas TRMS meet up? Show of hands?
me- but only if there are hookers and blackjack
DUH!
(Re: Futurama)
Hell, the joys of Vegas should be available everywhere Mouser. Land of the free, home of the brave, patron of the sisters of mercy, where horniness never goes unassuaged when there is cash in hand.
Well...personally I believe prostitution should be legal, but regulated. I'd much rather have a society where the only prostitution is done by Companions and not slaves and children.
I KNEW you were a socialist! Or do I mean Fascist?
I know y'all were kidding, but even so I have to say "no way!" to Vegas. If you want to go to Key West, now you're talkin'!
Sunset Fest, here we come!
Oh Mouser, a Firefly reference! Made me feel all squishy and stuff. And you are right. Better regulation means less disease and so forth. Then there is also what remains to be done FOR the women who are in that business right now out of drug addiction, grinding poverty, who've been doing it since they WERE children. Its really not a theoretical question. What seperates a Companion from a whore (a la Heart of Gold) is education and training...without those, all you get a whores (said with the utmost sensitivity, no disrespect intended.) A better class of nation turns out a better class of prostitute. [my GOD that's quotable! : D )
Mouser, you are just too freaking hilarious!
well, i'm down, but plane ticket? screw that; i'll fly.
my pilot's license? "i don' need no steenking license."
in fact, forget the blackjack.
[ah-SEW-ej-ed] (who was that that LOLed at Ms. Maddow from off-camera?)
That WAS funny!
Hey, this is great! We could also get rid of all those pesky rules, umm, like marriage certificates (cause it is your God given right to marry whomever you want or as many times as you want), birth certificates (cause it is your God given right to have children and no one needs to know who they are, where they came from or where they were born, etc.) That would also eliminate the need for passports and would pretty much do away with the "papers please" law and while I'm on a role, who needs boarding passes - hell it's my God given right to travel!
Other than the fact, this puts a lot of clerks out of jobs - not to mention law enforcement - this is great! When's it start?
And why should I need to purchase a piece of land? We all have the God-given right to live wherever we want, and if someone doesn't like the fact that I want to take the land they foolishly think is theirs, I can use my Second Amendment remedies, which came from God himself. I don't need a medical license to practice medicine, because I have the God-given right to use a scalpel on someone if I feel like it.
Man, when you accept the concept that everything is a God-given right, one that no person or government can take from you, it's totally liberating. This anarchy thingie is pretty cool!!! LOL
Not to mention unlimited abortion access, homosexual marriage...interspecies marriage, Paladino was a visionary!
How about polygamy, and, let us not forget, polyandry?
Polyamory for me, TYVM.
Who would need a job anymore? It is my God given right to have whatever I want. :/
Practiced by women in the Himalayas where there is very little arable soil to keep population down naturally. She marries brothers...that is co-husbands are all brothers, not her own. The practice has its precedent in the Majabarata, the five brothers of the Pandavas all marry the princess Draupadi.
For sake of convenience, all bigamists can claim to adopt Mormonism, while polyandrinists can claim to be Hindu. Or Goldilocks and the Three Bears (badump-kesh!!...Lowdown Dirty Shame John Waters reference.)
mbal: Wasn't she the sister of Cleveland Amory?
LOL (and that's VERY rare for me...good 'un!)
What's funny (or not funny, depending on the definition of "funny") is that I have a friend trying to convince me to finally get my driver's licence so I can road-trip with her to Atlanta. Maybe we should just start OFF in Georgia, and I could avoid that pesky driving test thing.
geeezzz, I was ever so glad when they took my great uncle's license away when he was in his late 90's living in Georgia. Folks in his little town told me they would clear the sidewalks when he went to get lunch every day at the diner. Once he parked on the sidewalk and the cop actually was kind enough to move the car out of the front door of the diner. That was when he drove him home and revoked his license.
Well my uncle would be so very pleased with this guy. He was pissed he couldn't drive anymore. We were all happy he didn't kill anyone before they did.
There is a really good reason we have some laws and this is one of them.
Sounds like my father in law. He had parkinsons and when it progressed it affected his driving, reaction time. He got in a few little fender benders, nothing bad. He'd drive to the YMCA but eventually they asked he not drive there anymore because they were afraid he'd cause an accident. Wasn't long after that my mother in law insisted he stop driving, thank God.
Hey, I forgot Red Lights - who needs them? They infringe on my right to travel!
You're thinking too small, man! Who needs any traffic signs, or traffic laws at all. They all infringe on my God-given right to drive on any damn side of the road I want, at any speed I want, in any kind of vehicle I want. If I want to drive down the wrong side of the Lincoln Tunnel in a M-1 tank during rush hour in NYC, that is my right. If a few dozen cars get crushed and people are killed, that is their fault for impinging on my freedoms. If I hadn't killed them, God would have done it as punishment for restricting my freedoms.
Actually Uffy it's interesting that you bring that up. Back when they were arguing about whether or not they should put speed limits in place, the conservative argument was that speed limits put unnecessary impositions on freedom. To quote Homer Simpson regarding the subject "Well sure it will save thousands of lives, but millions will be late for work."
@Uffdaguy - I've been given this a lot of thought. Just what rights did my Creator imbue me with and I've decided that pretty much "my" Creator gave me the right to do any damm thing I damm well please without having to answer to anybody.
How about we make a list. What unalienable rights did "your" Creator imbue you with?
My creator? That would be my mom and dad, and I don't think they imbued me with any particular unalienable rights. I'm a Buddhist and a scientist, so I'm not a believer in some bearded guy in the sky sitting down for a few minutes to create me. Of course, others are free to believe whatever they want. After all, if we don't need no stinking drivers licenses, we don't need to have any beliefs, right?
Me, I'm partial to the Invisible Pink Unicorn (bbuhph).
What I find hysterical is that these inalienable rights were bestowed upon the people by men in wigs. Sort of like the Bible was assembled by a bunch of guys way back when who selectively left out books they didn't like. Someone correct me on this, please, since I am not a biblical scholar. Catholic--Cliffs Notes, baby. Anyway, I seem to remember a lot about what thoust should and should not do, but not so much about Jesus speaking about what one has the "right" to do. Isn't this the same man who said "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesars? I'm so confused.
The inaliable right for WEEED!
Does anyone else notice the awful irony that he's insisting that something like driving is an inalienable right, but apparently he doesn't think that a woman has an inalienable right to decide what medical procedures are or are not acceptable for her?
Oh, you were raped? Sorry, you don't have a choice whether or not to bear your rapist's child. Oh, your child is going to be born with a horrible defect and only live a few days, if that? Sorry, you still have to bear the child and watch him/her suffer horribly.
But it's the inept drivers who really need our protection.
And don't forget, folks..."Brakes are for p*ssies!" :-/
I just drove home in the IL blizzard. I must confess, here and now, that I am a p*ssy.
glad you made it home, mg
We're set to get quite a bit of snow tonight through tomorrow (probably what you got today heading this way). I'll join you, micro.
Meh, at least I get a snow day out of it. Thanks for the kind thoughts, though.
Here in Tulsa we've gotten our all time record for snow. It's knee high out here and we lost our cloth gazebo. At least its not like the ice storm of '05. We are pretty much sealed in but in no danger of losing power...that we know of. We stocked up on everything just in case.
I got hit badly with that ice storm too her N of Wichita, a week w/o power, it sucked. Not so much snow this time, but it is bitter cold. The high was 7°F today and windy as hell.
God is smiting us for abusing our inalienable right to travel. Ok, ok. 5 Our Fathers and 10 Hail Mary's and I'll only go 5 mph over. Deal? Alright, alright, 8 Our Fathers and I'll TRY not to abuse the speed limit. Now please retract the white stuff.
Will this apply to Pilot's licence? If so, I am going to need a heads up on that.
Absolute nonsense. Driving is a privilege, not a right. Has our world gone this kooky that people can argue that anything is a god given right? This makes me glad that I live in the sensible Northeast. While we may get pummeled with snow in the winter, at least our law makers aren't this stupid.
That is just a misinterpretation, as that passage clearly is explaining that you don't lose your citizenship by leaving the country. Furthermore, why would a Georgia law maker write into law a reference to the English law?
Licensing is a regulation to ensure that people are properly trained to drive a vehicle and follow the rules of the road. Driving a car is not a natural skill one develops as he grows older, it is a skill that is taught. It is already bad enough that Georgia's lack of gun laws is supplying the entire Northeast's criminal organizations with weapons, now this. This would actually be a disservice to the people of Georgia, as they would no longer be able to travel out of state. Without a license you can't rent a car, or drive in another state legally (states typically honor the licenses in other states as the testing to get a license is similar across the country).
I work in insurance, and let me tell you a little something about your rates if this passes...take out a loan, because they are going up BIG time!
Can't we just let the rates in GA rise to unreasonable levels? After all, we see very few Georgians up here, unless they are terribly lost. Usually, as soon as they see tons of white stuff covering every surface, they get very scared and confused, and they begin to cry. Of course, the tears freeze on their faces, which is even more alarming to them.
We have plenty of crappy drivers up here in MN. Let GA keep their own.
Hey, you don't "see" Georgians because they have the God given right to not have to have plates on their cars - so you may be surrounded with peaches and not know!
I saw a couple of them last summer, and wondered what they were doing up here in the great white north. I finally decided that they wanted to see mosquitos the size of B-52s...or they were looking for the Mall of America. Either way, they were doomed.
I realize this is off subject, but your mosquitoes terrify me. I woke up with one sucking on my arm one night and I thought it was a giant spider. I think I woke every one of my neighbors up screaming.
Northwest used to solve their problem with obsolescent airliners by capturing our mosquitos and painting them in Northwest colors. They still do duty as regional jets in our area.
I am pretty sure upper midwest mosquitoes are some kind of mutant species. I'm originally from Wisconsin and we joke (not really) that our national bird is the mosquito.
@ Bolbis
I'd assume that insurance would also infringe on our 'God-Given Right' to drive?
Bolbis, thanks for pointing out where this came from. I am glad you mentioned: by land or by water < yes, no more registration of boats either!
You can travel.... just put one foot in front of the other....
Bolbis and Stagnasty
Sounds like a crime fightin duo. I'd watch 'em if they put it on TV
I'm adopting Stag Nasty as my porn name.
(Proving, not for the first time, that I'll say just about anything.)
Bolbis and Stagnasty. Porn stars that solve crimes, next on Fox.
(BTW if this show or something similar shows up on TV I want residuals)
Hey it was my idea dammit! LOL
that's incestual infringment
I think "Biff Harder" would be a good name for a male porn star.
@Mickey - have you seen our roaches down this way? i know TRMS has when they were in LA last year, pic somewhere in their Flickr feed.
I've only been to LA a few times and the roaches there terrified me.
They are bigger in FL...
I am not sure "how big are the roaches in your state?" is a contest I would want to win.
I'm in LA...they scared the crap outta me when I was in FL.
@mightbealiberal - hey, it's Florida; we'll take what we can get. :|
I am soooo glad I live in the Pacific Northwest. The only thing I have to worry about is Sasquatch.
I would give my left nut to have to worry about Sasquatch! I'm serious, I'm all about cryptozoology, though I'm more into lake monsters than anything else. there are at least four prominant ones inthe Pacific NW, British Columbia, and especially Manitoba (Caddy in Pacific NW and Vancouver, Manipogo Lake Manitoba, Igipogo Lake Simcoe, Ogopogo Lake Okanagan, and reports of Giant Beavers in Bear Lake in Utah dating back to before its founding BY its founders!) Bigfoots are cool too and even more ubiquitous. There are some reports of those here in Oklahoma as well as skunk ape in the swamps of Louisiana. I love the mystery and possiblities the existance of these things create.
Don, didn't I see something about a mysterious big cat prowling in OK and TX recently?
I wouldn't doubt it. I'm sure we've got mountain lions and it wouldn't surprise me if we have the occasional jaguar that is VERY far from home. Plus people like to collect exotic pets. Something may have gotten away.
Wheeee! We're heading for anarchy!
I want an Uzi and a Maserati -- and it's my god-given right to have them both for FREE!
Live Action Grand Theft Auto...coming to a town near you. EVERYBODY PLAYS!
I'm not sure of the spelling, but there used to be a game called 'Carmegeddon' - Maximum destruction = maximum points! Bonus points for little old ladies with walkers in a crosswalk, baby carriages, wheelchairs, kids on sidewalks, etc - Whee!
Carmageddon was one of my favorite games!!! I keep hoping they will come out with a new version that will play on the newer computers.
Hell with that, I want an Abrams with a 50 cal, it is my God given right to shoot and run over (or vice versa) everything, including police cars.
I have often wished for a howizter in my horn. :)
I have always thought an infrared laser mounted at the front would be great, because you could burn a hole in the back of the offending vehicle in front of you, (heck, if they're in front of you, they just HAVE to be offensive!), setting the gas tank on fire. Since the beam of the IR laser is invisible, you could act as shocked as the next guy when that land yacht of a Nissan Armada erupts in a massive explosion.
I gotta stop thinking about this kind of stuff!
It's not that you think of this stuff, it's the amount of time you think of this stuff! ROFL.
This made me laugh. I used to wish a hand flippin' the bird would come out of the turn indicator of my VW bus for the folks who would just sit there while I was trying to change lanes....
LOL Maggie, a little light on the mayhem, but I applaud the sentiment. :)
I used to have one of those suction cup waving hands things people would stick on their back windows, except I carefully cut off all but one finger. It offended some but mostly people thought it was funny or they wanted it. Eventually someone got it one sunny day when I left the windows down.
I always thought it would be cool to get one of those times square ticker things for your rear window. You could have preprogrammed messages...
You mean like this?
No way! I could program a whole bunch of navaho curse words into that. I'd call my car windtalker
Now THAT'S funny!
There's always DOSBox (for the PC version, anyway).
Far as I'm concerned, they can drive without a license... on a road on their own property, which they maintain without signage from the DOT or lights from the city power grid. Once they enter a public road, they are going to have to follow the rules set by those who maintain those public roads - And like it or not, rednecks, that includes a driver's license.
Exactly - plus Driver's licenses, along with plates and stickers ensure that TAXES are Paid! $'s!
God gave us Two Feet, not Four Wheels! ;-P
well, that's essentially how it works for Drivers' Ed classes, right? i know we drove on the road some but mostly it was on school grounds (well, i guess those are also public property, but in practice, it's private). i also practiced in our church parking lot.
LOL to all posts above! Rep. Franklin seems to be the latest Conservative to show a complete and utter lack of ordinary common sense. I'm not terribly surprised - there seems to be a bumper crop of assorted nuts these past couple of years.
As I recall, nuts are one of the main crops in GA, and a former president grew some of them. But please let's not blame Jimmy Carter for the nuts we are seeing now.
Another god-given reason to avoid living in, traveling in, or contributing in any way to the economy of Georgia. So glad I do not drink Coke.
Do these guys just make up weird crap to try to *out-crazy* the other crazies?? This is unbeleiveable, where did these people go to school, or did they? Idiocracy..............not so funny anymore, is it?
This sort of thing is what happens when Idiot America is allowed to run rampant (referencing the book by Charles Pierce).
Love the Idiocracy reference, as I see it more as a prediction rather than a comedy.
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So what's Bobby Franklin's stance on immigration? It hurts my head when people take a stance on one issue without considering how it affects another issue on their own side.
i think it hurts your head because you're a rational person and you expect some any of consistency in their stances rather than just what they feel like on each.
and all sub-stances.
this week.
Does anyone know of any studies on which nation is the most sane? The title "expatriot" is sounding really good right about now. Hmmmm. Where to move? Where. To. Move?
I'm personally thinking Sweden. Or Canada. They both have better healthcare, and nobody ever attacks them. They're both too d*mn nice. Or, in the case of Sweden, have everybody's money and could seriously screw with people if they want to, so they're pretty much left to their own.
Thoughts?
CoraH - "...in the case of Sweden, have everybody's money..."
Um, are you sure you aren't thinking of Switzerland?
Yeah, I am. Don't mind me. Sometimes my brain functions on an admirable level, and other days...it does not.
Canada it is! At least now, the next time I go to Europe, I can put a little Canadian flag on my back pack and not feel like a liar.
oy, all those places are too cold! i'm thinking someplace further south, like maybe Mexico (you'd be really rich, too) or Puerto Rico (a US protectorate, so maybe best of both worlds).
oh! i know the perfect other-nation: Hawaii! #birthersarcasm
So he's got time to submit a state bill on traffic? Why doesn't he submit a bill to his state Senator to create jobs?
Matter of fact...has there been ONE bill submitted to create jobs?
Eventually, maybe there will be something relating to jobs. Until then we're stuck with crap like this.
Funny, the 112th has submitted 498 bills in the house.
NOT ONE DEALING WITH CREATING JOBS!
Meh...priorities, schmiorities.
Speaking of stupid things being said, anyone note this gem from Democrat Senator Chuck Schumer?
So I would urge my Republican colleagues, no matter how strongly they feel -- you know, we have three branches of government. We have a House. We have a Senate. We have a president. And all three of us are going to have to come together and give some, but it is playing with fire to risk the shutting down of the government, just as it is playing with fire to risk not paying the debt ceiling.
Although that certainly represents one giant brain fart on the part of Sen. Schumer, I find it hard to equate it with proposing legislation based on the God given right to travel. Chapter and verse needed. Please advise.
I agree Schumer's statement, if that is indeed what he said, was stupid - do you have a reputable source for that statement? All I can find are rabid right-wing websites repeating it over and over - supposedly he was on CNN with Candy Crowley?
Never mind, I found it. 1:10 in this Youtube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG0Jpu9geWY&feature=player_embedded#
I don't see where the Representative posed legislation based on a "God given right to travel." I do see in the legislation what he calls a "constitutional" right. I do not think it is fair to link the Representative with the other guy even with the disclaimer:
So, I'll just put my disclaimer and call it fair.
No one's saying the Rep. Franklin and Sen. Schumer are the same cat, only that they're both saying stupid things.
Yes, using the public roads is a right inherent to living in this country. But driving on them is a privilege. There's nothing saying you can't get a bike... except, oh, yeah, bikes are Marxist. I forgot about that bit. Never mind what I said, then!
Hmm, by his logic, those unborn babies have been kidnapped by their 'maternal figures', denied of their rights to travel independently? Shouldn't THEY be allowed to drive, too? Heck, how about ALL children? Six year olds in Lamborghinis - Whee!
Meanwhile, in Georgia--
Cities:
I hope no-one here is from Columbus, GA - They'd be violating the second law example!
Lmao that was awesome
Well crap, that means most of NV is against the law there, especially this thread.
I'm a rebel who insists to on my God-given right to tease any idiot I want!
I hope somebody is tracking all Adam & Eve shipments to Georgia.
@Stephenathome Everyone's fine with babies being entertained by keys, but let one baby drive a Porsche and suddenly I'm a horrible uncle. 8:12 AM Feb 2nd
Airlines are one of the biggest recipients of corporate welfare, therefore we the people 'own' the airways as well. That means we should be able to fly free too and not just in airliners, homemade stuff too.
Alright! Go "Balloon-Boy"!