For months, Rachel has been essentially working two jobs. When she hasn't been working on the show, she's been researching and recording this documentary with Richard. It's a look at how the U.S. has responded to the events of 9/11 both domestically and internationally, and as you may have caught at the end of the commercial above, it takes two days to play the whole thing. Expect epic.
Here's Rachel describing it last week:
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OK, I'm going to watch it...though I'll probably have to DVR. I'm not without apprehension about whether it has "spin" in one direction or the other, as these things often do. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
I'm going to watch it too, and I don't ever think of "spin" when I think of news as presented by Rachel Maddow. She tends to dish it out in real terms, and doesn't seem to play favorites. Any chance that's why she's so loved by her many fans, and feared by those who aren't quite so much? Should be very interesting, and for sure it's about time someone did it.
you're right, she and richard do a pretty good job of doing stories without spin. Yet because war raises strong topics that elicit strong emotions, they are particularly tough to make in an even handed way. So I'm apprehensive.
The loss of life and the loss of our constitutional right to privacy are just a few of the changes. This is a day that I always cry at least once. The other thing about this day...it is my birthday.
Really looking forward to this. Hard to believe so much time has gone by, and this particular event has had such an profound effect on my life, it is still hard to find words for it.
Agree. The world is so different now than the one I grew up in, and I feel a certain sympathy for young people today who'll never know a time when there weren't surveilance cameras just about everywhere. When metal detectors were silly novelties people mail-ordered from comic book ads so they could find buried treasure at the beach. When airports were open, friendly gateways to the even friendlier skies, and everyone, not just the ticketed passenger, was welcome. I could go on and on, of course, but it all seems so pointless now. We've effectively scared ourselves into what seems like a perpetual and permanent state of national paranoia, and it's a shame. Like Ed says so succinctly, we're better than this. And I know it's true, because I was there.
Nice that Maddow noted the value of a social safety net, at least regarding Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, which had been implemented and often protected by Democrats. But it's unfortunate that she remains oblivious to the consequences of our collective decision to rip out the social safety net for our poorest, in spite of the reality that not everyone can work, and that we are not/never were a full-employment nation. Note that it was the Democratic Party, under Clinton, that shredded the social safety net. What goes unnoticed is the tremendous value that welfare had for the working class for a few decades, most notably in serving as a tool making it possible for workers to strike when necessary. When employers refused to pay fair wages, they couldn't get employees; people could turn to welfare until they could find family-supporting jobs. Now it's (almost) a free-for-all for corporations. They have a ready supply of super-cheap, involuntary workfare labor to replace disobedient employees who choose to go on strike or try to form unions. Being able to reject employers who refused to provide fair wages and safe working conditions served to protect wages for all of the working class. Those days are gone, and our very survival depends on taking jobs (often two or three) at any wage. And if you lose your job today, you can lose absolutely everything, including your children (welfare reform provision that enables state agencies to "take indefinite custody" of children of the unemployed). By failing to mention our former successful welfare programs, which moved millions into the middle class, Maddow only perpetuates the class-war notion that in America, one's human worth is determined exclusively by his financial status.
As for the many who are permanently pushed out of the job market, with virtually no chance of getting a job, it has been a horrendous tragedy - and injustice - that even American progressives have turned their backs on the poor. We care about our fellow Americans, as long as they have enough money in the bank.
Rachel,
Check out Rick Perry's Wikipedia page. There is a picture showing Rick ready to mount a fighter jet, possibly an F-15. Very manly, studly, macho pic. However, his military career involved flying prop-driven, C-130 cargo planes; veritable Winnebagos of the skies which were more suitable for hauling hay.
What about truth in advertising?
Love your show!
Mike DesCamp, LT, USNR (Viet Nam) (I hate phonies)
An excellent find, mikedescamp. I didn't really have serious issues with Perry until his ignorant, self-serving crack about how the military has no respect for the present POTUS. His clear implication, as I see it, is that they don't respect Obama because he's Black, but they WOULD respect HIM, presumably because he's...not? An eight year veteran myself, I know for a fact that deceit such as this is not looked upon with respect by the rank and file. ANY service is honorable, and shouldn't require sleight-of-hand glorification. If this is his idea of "honorable", he'd do well to downplay it and pursue some other angle.
mikedescamp,
The photo on wikipedia that you refer to is not a F-15 or even a fighter. It's a T-38. One of the training aircraft the USAF has been using to train their pilots for years and years. T-38s are actually still currently used for that purpose. While primarily for pilots that go on to fly fighters, historically, pilots that have gone on to fly other aircraft have trained on it as well. I have no knowledge of his specific military career, but from looking at the picture, it likely that it was taken when he was in USAF pilot training and he likely flew the T-38 in pilot training. All that photo says to anyone who knows anything about flying, is that he was a USAF pilot. Nothing about what aircraft he operationally flew. Better check your facts before you talk about false advertising.
I've been really hoping to see Engel and Maddow team up again for awhile, being as brilliant as they are in their fields, so I'll be watching this for sure. :)
Yeah, baby! Rachel and Richard, together again...how can this not be great?
Looking forward to the show on 9/11 handling...let's see what are their findings
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Looking forward to this doc. Rachel and Richard are brilliant story tellers with factual accounting of well researched material. I'm a fan of both, and know this will be a first-rate tribute to the horrendous happenings of that day, and the aftereffects it produced.
I hope you're asking who won! It's clear, OBL did.
His hope was that we spend all our blood and treasure, check.
Destroy our Liberty and Freedom, check, in spades!
We are currently economically ruined in terms of the vast majority of Americans.
We're in a surveiliance state that is unknown and invisible.
And we cannot stop spending on Wars.
It's not even a question, if you asked him, "would you trade being shot in the face ten years later for the state the country is in now in response to your attack" gladly would be the response.
In reference to Day of Destruction,Decade of War...THANK YOU, THANK YOU! Finally someone in the media has brought these useless wars to the forefront!!! Why are we in Afghanistan!! We have more than avenged the people in the twin towers, with the loss of our youngest and best, so we should stop using that as a reason to throw our young lives away. I have written ABC NBC CBS to try to them to focus on the wars, but..... We need to bring them home and put them on our borders, the rest should help ICE find and deport anyone who came into this country the illegal way, after all, it is a crime???!! Wars cost us trillions in money, not to mention lives. Thank you, thank you.
I think that Democrats, in both houses, and President Obama, should be required to watch her show nightly. They could learn a thing or two. She has amazing insight and her guests are varied, intelligent, and know of what they speak. I respect her most, for keeping veteran's issues in the forefront.
This will be a mind-blowing program, that I can't wait to watch!
It's my dream to be a researcher for Maddow's show. She's one of the few who actually gives thought to both sides because she has a natural curriosity. I'm looking forward to this documentary. Her last one on Dr. Tiller was very well reasoned and presented.
Will the documentary be available on line? I live OS and don't want to miss this!
I love Rachel, but the rapid-fire, bouncing cuts chosen by the director made it unwatchable for me. What was the point of bouncing around like a fly on meth? I saw the first ten minutes and turned it off. I was so distracted by the directing I don't think I heard a word that was said.
I doubt Rachel or her staff read these comments, but for what it's worth:
I had my 13-year-old son sit down and watch this with me so that he could know what has happened since he was 3 years old the day the towers went down. He was too young then to know what was going on, and too young to understand how the world has changed. I wanted him to understand the freedoms that are gone now that I took for granted before 9/11, so he could appreciate what was lost, what was given, what was taken, and how it happened. It's hard to get a 13 year old to sit through this kind of subject matter, but he watched this show with keen attention and a dismayed silence, and was deeply troubled by it.
It breaks my heart to see that look on his face -- especially as he watched kids his age in Mogadishu, the young would-be suicide bomber, and those soldiers in Afghanistan; the lecturer who proposed armed teachers, and the torturers -- but it's important that he knows what's happening, and that things didn't used to be this way. I feel so much like the regular people have lost whatever hand we had on the rudder of our country when I came of age. I think history will call us the Lost Generation. But, I'm afraid of nothing so much as an entire generation of our children -- young people like my son not understanding that things were ever different, or why it all happened.
So, thank you Rachel, and thank you Richard. You both did a wonderful job on this show, and you gave my son a great gift of knowledge in a way I couldn't make clear (I don't have access to gripping footage and those amazing interviews).
- Heather
Houston, TX
When does it re-air?
Any chance of it repeating?
I am disgusted. I can not believe that this show is airing on 9/11- a day we should be remembering the heros in our Nation, and the people who we have lost. We should not be trying to pulling us apart because of political differences about interrogations. This should be a day for us to remember what we have lost and how we as a Nation can come together and look toward the future.
I am disgusted. I can not believe that this show is airing on 9/11; a day we should be remembering the people we have lost. We should be trying to bring our Nation together and looking toward the future, not trying to pull our Nation apart because of political differences. This is not showing any compassion towards the thousands of people that have lost loved ones.