What strikes me immediately is how much this picture reminds me of the cover of The Doors Strange Days album which I would post for you here but I do not know how -- or even if such is possible.
Three GOP Presidential Candidates Sign Pledge To Investigate LGBT Community
As one of my friends on Facebook wrote: "Excuse me? Investigate us for what? Settled happiness? Fearlessness in the face of prejudice? Sense of style? What?"
And another said: "Investigate us for what? The secret to our fabulosity?"
Here's a question: Does McCarthyism work if the targeted group feels little actual SHAME and instead thrives on PRIDE?
Or perhaps these nutjob right wing pols just can't wrap their heads around that.
I don't know why more politicians don't fully get behind this movement. Just take this quote from one of the "performers" addressing the Occupy crowd (according to the New Yorker):
The day after Zuccotti Park was razed, I had an interview on Bloomberg Radio. I go up to the Bloomberg f***ing a** dump of chrome and steel – it looks like a billionaire s*** it out … it looks like the product of a little man who wants to feel bigger. At Bloomberg, you can tell the tit of the f***ing industry is stuck right in their f***ing mouth … his media trails behind him like a trail of s***ty underwear down the street.
So you object to the "f" bomb, big deal. You'd find something else to object to if there weren't any "f" bombs. I suppose you feel victimized by choosing to read that in the New Yorker? Poor conservatives, must be tough to be rich, powerful, well armed and well protected victims.
I can easily speak for myself, no need to assume. I don't "object" to the "f" bomb I just don't see it as very effective in making a substantive point.
In all the statements made by people in OWS, you have one that doesn't make a point. That is a "so what" statement unless you are asserting that this one statement represents all made by OWS, in which case, you are showing your lack of any intelligible argument. Either way you are unworthy of any further responses by posters here because you lack analytical skills to be persuasive and intelligible.
Oh, there are plenty of OWS statements that don't "make a point." Just the other day I heard someone say (paraphrase): "I'm not getting a job until they make the minimum wage a living wage." How stupid. The minimum wage is meant to be an entry level wage, not a living wage.
And as far as picking out one statement among the many, that again is what both sides do. They wait for someone to make one slip and then they siege upon it. If you don't recognize that, then you "are unworthy of any further responses...and lack the analytical skills to be persuasive and intelligible."
The minimum wage is meant to be an entry level wage, not a living wage.
Okay, so how long do you expect a 50-year old woman who lost her job in the recession and gets an entry-level job - how long do you expect her to go without having enough money to minimally meet having food, shelter, health insurance, and some sort of transportation (be it by Private Sector Personal Automobile or Socialist Public Transportation) on top of any bills she may have accrued and still have to pay off from her previous job with a higher salary?
I don't mean to make this whole thing sound snarky, but I really would like to know how long you would expect someone to go without making enough money to live on. And if they're denied a raise to a minimum living wage by their employer, what consequence should be given to the employer?
I don't mean to make this whole thing sound snarky, but I really would like to know how long you would expect someone to go without making enough money to live on.
I don't think this sounds "snarky," I think they are valid inquiries.
1. A 50 year old woman who has been working would not be an inexperience (entry) level worker unless she was forced to go completely outside of her previous job experience (which could be the case).
2. A 50 year old woman who has been working (like all those who work) should also be saving along the way. (Now, please don't make the argument, but people don't make enough to save, etc. Granted, the can be the case but far more out "live" their "paycheck." Most people live beyond their means...vastly "most," not all.) So savings could supplement lower wage in down times/emergencies.
3. It is not the fault of a business that economic times might be challenging. Payroll is always one of the biggest expense of most companies. You simple can not pay someone more value than they are worth to the organization. Some business require employees with little experience or expertise, others require more. You can't have the fast food paying 25,000/yr plus grand benefits and have first year teachers making the same. What incentive (other than internal) would there be to do anything different than the bare minimum?
And if they're denied a raise to a minimum living wage by their employer, what consequence should be given to the employer?
Businesses that do not treat their employees decently usually do well in poor economic times like now, but over the long haul they can not continue. Like people, there are some business (management) that do not respect the value of employees. This is not the majority of businesses.
I'm not afraid of some guidelines or accreditation or some way of rewarding or identifying good businesses practices, but I'm against instituting a one size fits all law or program. Just look at the "waivers" granted for the recent healthcare act.
Someone should tell Newt that in communist China school children are made to clean the schools classrooms and bathrooms. They do not even have a head janitor. Good idea Newt!
In Japan, kids actually do clean their schools, but not as a paying gig. Chores rotate around, so everyone helps clean up their schools, and everyone has a reason to take pride in it.
That's not what Newt is advocating for. There is a big difference in everyone pitching in, to a handful of kids cleaning up after the others because of their socio-economic status. Kids go to school to learn, and to be proud of themselves, not to be scrubbing the toilets of the other kids learning.
And then, Newt wants to get rid of full-time workers who probably make at the lower end of a livable wage to show kids the value of working? Really? T-T
I need Rachel's help on something. I'm trying to elevate the original Progressives in our history. Everyone remembers the Dred Scott case right? What people don't remember are the TWO justices that sided with Dred.
These PROGRESSIVES need to be elevated to hero status. But I'm sure the ProLeft doesn't think so.
Justice John McLean and Justice Benjamin Curtis are true progressive hero's. But no one knows them. My goodness, to side with a slave during that time is REAL progressive ideology. To side with the 99% nowadays is akin to treason.
Twenty years will produce all the mischief that can be apprehended from the liberty to import slaves, so long a term will be more dishonorable to the American character than to say nothing about it in the Constitution
I wish I has money so I could produce a movie about these two men. It would be worthy of Oscar status.
The Republicans say they want to privatize Medicad and Medicare, but that will be the total down fall of everybody getting fair medical treatment, since medical costs will soar beyond belief for elderly and disabled. People need to take a good look at the cost differences of medical care between private and public care. Medicad and Medicare costs 20 to 45 % of a persons typical health care costs, because it is regulated by our government. Doctors, Pharmacies, Drug companies and Hospitals are limited on what they can charge by the government. And just think they are still making huge profits and keep using the excuse they are not making enough money or cutting the wages of workers as they put up new buildings for more medical offices and line their pockets with all the cash. Talk about one of the biggest scams ever created that affect working people and their families.
I am in favor of Midicare for all and eliminating all for profit healthcare. Just like I pay taxes for a military system, I would like to see the same for healthcare.
Start by getting insurance companies out of the health care industry. We don't need a number cruncher in the doctor's office telling the doctor they can't do what their patient needs medically because it will cost too much.
By the same token, we need to stop taking heroic measures to save people who are just too sick to recover, and will suck the money out of the system. A stroke patient who isn't ever going to get better doesn't need a pacemaker to prolong their life in the nursing home.
But Americans don't like to be told the child with incurable cancer won't be getting heroic measures if that money could be better spent on immunizations and care for healthy children, or children who will recover from their illness and injury.
We all pull for the "miracle" recovery, and are willing to throw any amount of money into it, but that just isn't practical in a single-payer, government health care system. And this is probably where the knee-jerk reaction comes in.
"But, my dad!" "My daughter!" Yeah, sick. Not going to get better. Not worth the expense to the system. Sorry.
Sounds heartless, but money is actually finite, and choices must be made. That's why government spending on the military is different from government spending on healthcare. Too many people think they're worthy of exception to the rules, therefore there should be no rules.
But these choices are being made every day by insurance companies who won't cover necessary tests and procedures, and by budgets that can't stretch any further. A good percentage of the homeless are there because of medical bills.
What we're doing is unsupportable, and we have to change, but change is hard, and lots of people don't want change, ever. Especially if it means grandma is going to die.
Has anyone ever gotten out of here alive?
Being born is a death-sentence. It's only ever a matter of time. But we turn to modern medical science and expect it to produce immortality. Cheap.
Much as I hate to say it, and I don't propose it for everyone, but I don't want someone shoving tubes down my throat when I become terminal. My doctors have been notified that when I am dying, just let me go with dignity. I don't want to enter heaven dragging half a hospital with me. I want to go with the joy that I fought the good fight and succeeded in at least helping one other person.
The cost of terminal illness is outrageous because they are milking the dying body for the last penny they can get out of it. My family has been told that if they drag out a hopeless death, I will come back and haunt them for the rest of their lives. They know I love them, I know they love me (in their own ways) 'nuff said.
I was a controller in a tech school and one of my favorite students came in after his father had passed on, just devastated because he had held his father down while they intubated him. Finally, the father looked at his son and said, "Please, just let me go. Don't help them to do this again." The son then refused to help and the father passed in peace. The son said he would never forget his father begging to just let him die.
That is devastating and I don't want my family to have to make that decision.
We are kinder and more humane to our pets than to our terminally ill. Kevorkian was right. I have a living will, a donor stamp on my license and a directive to my children. There will be no tubes up my nose, down my throat or in my arms or legs. It's been a great ride. When it's time, let me go.
Allan Greenspan could not comprehend that bankers greed would wreck their own banks. Too many americans don't comprehend that many republican politicians are willing to do harm to the american people in their effort to replace Obama.
The ptoblem with that is, Republicans would view Mr. Potter as the hero, Jimmy Stewart as a deadbeat liberal and Clarence as a radical, interfering socialist pushing a Communist agenda...
We often seem very confused about the actions of the Republican party. I think that is because the majority of Republicans are confused.
It angers us to no end to hear many of them speak out of "both sides of their mouths". We sneer at politicians who "flip-flop" all over the issues.
I believe IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT. Hold on... hear me out.
The current Republican Party is truly the party of Alexander Hamilton. It is unquestionably a direct decendant of the "Federalist" party of the 1700's. Hamilton was all about the banks, and today, the word "Republican" and "banks" are synonymous. The Republican party of Thomas Jefferson is today's Democratic party. The part that confuses people is their views of the role of the federal government.
Jefferson and Madison believed in states rights, and Hamilton believed in a strong central, federal government. According to Federalism philosophy, the elites, the banks, merchants and manufacturers, and the military were central to and supportive of a strong federal government. And Hamilton believed in taxes to support the federal government in order to strengthen the navy, to protect trade. He also believed in funding the national debt and federal assumption of state debt.
Jefferson's Republican party of the day, was for the farmers, and the common folk, civic duty, and was strongly opposed to privilege, aristocracy and corruption. Most southerners were followers of Jefferson, not Hamilton and Federalism.
The south was "democratic" for years. The slavery issue caused many to change party. The philosophy of the democratic party of old still exists, but the issue again of the role of the federal government vs. state's rights continues to confuse the picture, thus confuses voters.
The Republicans of today are NOT against a strong federal government. They see it today as Hamilton did. What they are against, is the government being FOR the people, the common folk and the farmers Jefferson supported.
When Republicans are in office, banks have unlimited power, the elites reign, big business rules, and taxes for everybody but all of them are very much in place.
It is Federalism at its best. Yet they lie and say they are against the government having so much power and influence in people's lives.( Isn't it ironic it was a republican president and congress that put the Patriot Act in place?)
What the Republicans are against, is the common folk benefitting from that same government. They still see it as the government of the elites, the banks, the manufacturers, and the military for the protection of commerce.
Today, the Republican party is undoubtedly bank owned. When the Republicans are in power, our federal government is bank owned.
In order to have enough votes to remain in power to carry out their Federalist government practices, Republicans must secure big blocs of voters. So they pay politicians and lobbyists, and hire political strategists to 'get the votes" they need.
They tell people what they want to hear to convince them to sign up for the Republican team. They conduct polls, use the media to put out messages, they send out flyers, make calls, whatever it takes, (What they learned from Connecticut, who was the first state to ever use this strategy to win elections)
So then you end up with voters who fight for what they THINK their party is for, and politicians that have to keep up with the lies.
The people I feel the most sympathy for is the Tea Party. They are the most confused. Like the Jeffersonian Republicans, they are for states' rights and against a strong federal government. They are for" Joe Sixpack " and common folk. They are fighting for what they THINK their party is for, but as you have seen, once they got any power, the REAL Republican Federalist base started attacking THEM.
The Occupy Wall Street protesters are right on the money. They know who the REAL enemy is... It's not the federal government, it's the BANKS, the elites, the ones Jefferson opposed having the power in this country.
This country is supposed to be By the People, For The People. That is what the Constituion protects. Because of the enormous power the banks have acquired here and around the world, by USING the strong federal government to pass legistlation in their favor, the common people are left defenseless, unless that SAME government stands up for them... us. So BOTH parties are trying to use the same government to fight each other. That's what we are seeing today in Washington.
If the Occupy protestors need a goal, it is to clarify the issues and force people to see the truth.
What strikes me immediately is how much this picture reminds me of the cover of The Doors Strange Days album which I would post for you here but I do not know how -- or even if such is possible.
http://covers.a-go.in/?artist=The%20Doors
Spider Robinson calls this time period The Crazy Years.
I think he has a point.
Here's a fun link for Monday: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/08/16/three-gop-presidential-candidates-sign-pledge-to-investigate-lgbt-community/
As one of my friends on Facebook wrote: "Excuse me? Investigate us for what? Settled happiness? Fearlessness in the face of prejudice? Sense of style? What?"
And another said: "Investigate us for what? The secret to our fabulosity?"
Here's a question: Does McCarthyism work if the targeted group feels little actual SHAME and instead thrives on PRIDE?
Or perhaps these nutjob right wing pols just can't wrap their heads around that.
I don't know why more politicians don't fully get behind this movement. Just take this quote from one of the "performers" addressing the Occupy crowd (according to the New Yorker):
Now who couldn't support that!!!?
So you object to the "f" bomb, big deal. You'd find something else to object to if there weren't any "f" bombs. I suppose you feel victimized by choosing to read that in the New Yorker? Poor conservatives, must be tough to be rich, powerful, well armed and well protected victims.
I can easily speak for myself, no need to assume. I don't "object" to the "f" bomb I just don't see it as very effective in making a substantive point.
In all the statements made by people in OWS, you have one that doesn't make a point. That is a "so what" statement unless you are asserting that this one statement represents all made by OWS, in which case, you are showing your lack of any intelligible argument. Either way you are unworthy of any further responses by posters here because you lack analytical skills to be persuasive and intelligible.
Oh, there are plenty of OWS statements that don't "make a point." Just the other day I heard someone say (paraphrase): "I'm not getting a job until they make the minimum wage a living wage." How stupid. The minimum wage is meant to be an entry level wage, not a living wage.
And as far as picking out one statement among the many, that again is what both sides do. They wait for someone to make one slip and then they siege upon it. If you don't recognize that, then you "are unworthy of any further responses...and lack the analytical skills to be persuasive and intelligible."
Okay, so how long do you expect a 50-year old woman who lost her job in the recession and gets an entry-level job - how long do you expect her to go without having enough money to minimally meet having food, shelter, health insurance, and some sort of transportation (be it by Private Sector Personal Automobile or Socialist Public Transportation) on top of any bills she may have accrued and still have to pay off from her previous job with a higher salary?
I don't mean to make this whole thing sound snarky, but I really would like to know how long you would expect someone to go without making enough money to live on. And if they're denied a raise to a minimum living wage by their employer, what consequence should be given to the employer?
I don't think this sounds "snarky," I think they are valid inquiries.
1. A 50 year old woman who has been working would not be an inexperience (entry) level worker unless she was forced to go completely outside of her previous job experience (which could be the case).
2. A 50 year old woman who has been working (like all those who work) should also be saving along the way. (Now, please don't make the argument, but people don't make enough to save, etc. Granted, the can be the case but far more out "live" their "paycheck." Most people live beyond their means...vastly "most," not all.) So savings could supplement lower wage in down times/emergencies.
3. It is not the fault of a business that economic times might be challenging. Payroll is always one of the biggest expense of most companies. You simple can not pay someone more value than they are worth to the organization. Some business require employees with little experience or expertise, others require more. You can't have the fast food paying 25,000/yr plus grand benefits and have first year teachers making the same. What incentive (other than internal) would there be to do anything different than the bare minimum?
Businesses that do not treat their employees decently usually do well in poor economic times like now, but over the long haul they can not continue. Like people, there are some business (management) that do not respect the value of employees. This is not the majority of businesses.
I'm not afraid of some guidelines or accreditation or some way of rewarding or identifying good businesses practices, but I'm against instituting a one size fits all law or program. Just look at the "waivers" granted for the recent healthcare act.
Someone should tell Newt that in communist China school children are made to clean the schools classrooms and bathrooms. They do not even have a head janitor. Good idea Newt!
In Japan, kids actually do clean their schools, but not as a paying gig. Chores rotate around, so everyone helps clean up their schools, and everyone has a reason to take pride in it.
That's not what Newt is advocating for. There is a big difference in everyone pitching in, to a handful of kids cleaning up after the others because of their socio-economic status. Kids go to school to learn, and to be proud of themselves, not to be scrubbing the toilets of the other kids learning.
And then, Newt wants to get rid of full-time workers who probably make at the lower end of a livable wage to show kids the value of working? Really? T-T
I need Rachel's help on something. I'm trying to elevate the original Progressives in our history. Everyone remembers the Dred Scott case right? What people don't remember are the TWO justices that sided with Dred.
These PROGRESSIVES need to be elevated to hero status. But I'm sure the ProLeft doesn't think so.
Justice John McLean and Justice Benjamin Curtis are true progressive hero's. But no one knows them. My goodness, to side with a slave during that time is REAL progressive ideology. To side with the 99% nowadays is akin to treason.
I wish I has money so I could produce a movie about these two men. It would be worthy of Oscar status.
The Republicans say they want to privatize Medicad and Medicare, but that will be the total down fall of everybody getting fair medical treatment, since medical costs will soar beyond belief for elderly and disabled. People need to take a good look at the cost differences of medical care between private and public care. Medicad and Medicare costs 20 to 45 % of a persons typical health care costs, because it is regulated by our government. Doctors, Pharmacies, Drug companies and Hospitals are limited on what they can charge by the government. And just think they are still making huge profits and keep using the excuse they are not making enough money or cutting the wages of workers as they put up new buildings for more medical offices and line their pockets with all the cash. Talk about one of the biggest scams ever created that affect working people and their families.
I am in favor of Midicare for all and eliminating all for profit healthcare. Just like I pay taxes for a military system, I would like to see the same for healthcare.
Start by getting insurance companies out of the health care industry. We don't need a number cruncher in the doctor's office telling the doctor they can't do what their patient needs medically because it will cost too much.
By the same token, we need to stop taking heroic measures to save people who are just too sick to recover, and will suck the money out of the system. A stroke patient who isn't ever going to get better doesn't need a pacemaker to prolong their life in the nursing home.
But Americans don't like to be told the child with incurable cancer won't be getting heroic measures if that money could be better spent on immunizations and care for healthy children, or children who will recover from their illness and injury.
We all pull for the "miracle" recovery, and are willing to throw any amount of money into it, but that just isn't practical in a single-payer, government health care system. And this is probably where the knee-jerk reaction comes in.
"But, my dad!" "My daughter!" Yeah, sick. Not going to get better. Not worth the expense to the system. Sorry.
Sounds heartless, but money is actually finite, and choices must be made. That's why government spending on the military is different from government spending on healthcare. Too many people think they're worthy of exception to the rules, therefore there should be no rules.
But these choices are being made every day by insurance companies who won't cover necessary tests and procedures, and by budgets that can't stretch any further. A good percentage of the homeless are there because of medical bills.
What we're doing is unsupportable, and we have to change, but change is hard, and lots of people don't want change, ever. Especially if it means grandma is going to die.
Has anyone ever gotten out of here alive?
Being born is a death-sentence. It's only ever a matter of time. But we turn to modern medical science and expect it to produce immortality. Cheap.
Much as I hate to say it, and I don't propose it for everyone, but I don't want someone shoving tubes down my throat when I become terminal. My doctors have been notified that when I am dying, just let me go with dignity. I don't want to enter heaven dragging half a hospital with me. I want to go with the joy that I fought the good fight and succeeded in at least helping one other person.
The cost of terminal illness is outrageous because they are milking the dying body for the last penny they can get out of it. My family has been told that if they drag out a hopeless death, I will come back and haunt them for the rest of their lives. They know I love them, I know they love me (in their own ways) 'nuff said.
I was a controller in a tech school and one of my favorite students came in after his father had passed on, just devastated because he had held his father down while they intubated him. Finally, the father looked at his son and said, "Please, just let me go. Don't help them to do this again." The son then refused to help and the father passed in peace. The son said he would never forget his father begging to just let him die.
That is devastating and I don't want my family to have to make that decision.
We are kinder and more humane to our pets than to our terminally ill. Kevorkian was right. I have a living will, a donor stamp on my license and a directive to my children. There will be no tubes up my nose, down my throat or in my arms or legs. It's been a great ride. When it's time, let me go.
Someone should interview the old guy to the left. What an iconic vision..
Allan Greenspan could not comprehend that bankers greed would wreck their own banks. Too many americans don't comprehend that many republican politicians are willing to do harm to the american people in their effort to replace Obama.
I admire the rationale behind Occupy Broadway.
http://www.change.org/petitions/mayor-bloomberg-and-the-citizens-of-new-york-city-join-the-creative-resistance-occupy-broadway
I would like for all of the 99ers to view the Christmas movie entitled, "It's a Wonderful
Life" starring James Stuart. It is an old movie but it speaks to the feelings of most
people today. I am sure you will be able to relate and be better able to see the real
motivation of greedy businessmen. I feel it is one of the best Christmas movies ever
made. It is a real eye opener for even the greedy.
The ptoblem with that is, Republicans would view Mr. Potter as the hero, Jimmy Stewart as a deadbeat liberal and Clarence as a radical, interfering socialist pushing a Communist agenda...
We often seem very confused about the actions of the Republican party. I think that is because the majority of Republicans are confused.
It angers us to no end to hear many of them speak out of "both sides of their mouths". We sneer at politicians who "flip-flop" all over the issues.
I believe IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT. Hold on... hear me out.
The current Republican Party is truly the party of Alexander Hamilton. It is unquestionably a direct decendant of the "Federalist" party of the 1700's. Hamilton was all about the banks, and today, the word "Republican" and "banks" are synonymous. The Republican party of Thomas Jefferson is today's Democratic party. The part that confuses people is their views of the role of the federal government.
Jefferson and Madison believed in states rights, and Hamilton believed in a strong central, federal government. According to Federalism philosophy, the elites, the banks, merchants and manufacturers, and the military were central to and supportive of a strong federal government. And Hamilton believed in taxes to support the federal government in order to strengthen the navy, to protect trade. He also believed in funding the national debt and federal assumption of state debt.
Jefferson's Republican party of the day, was for the farmers, and the common folk, civic duty, and was strongly opposed to privilege, aristocracy and corruption. Most southerners were followers of Jefferson, not Hamilton and Federalism.
The south was "democratic" for years. The slavery issue caused many to change party. The philosophy of the democratic party of old still exists, but the issue again of the role of the federal government vs. state's rights continues to confuse the picture, thus confuses voters.
The Republicans of today are NOT against a strong federal government. They see it today as Hamilton did. What they are against, is the government being FOR the people, the common folk and the farmers Jefferson supported.
When Republicans are in office, banks have unlimited power, the elites reign, big business rules, and taxes for everybody but all of them are very much in place.
It is Federalism at its best. Yet they lie and say they are against the government having so much power and influence in people's lives.( Isn't it ironic it was a republican president and congress that put the Patriot Act in place?)
What the Republicans are against, is the common folk benefitting from that same government. They still see it as the government of the elites, the banks, the manufacturers, and the military for the protection of commerce.
Today, the Republican party is undoubtedly bank owned. When the Republicans are in power, our federal government is bank owned.
In order to have enough votes to remain in power to carry out their Federalist government practices, Republicans must secure big blocs of voters. So they pay politicians and lobbyists, and hire political strategists to 'get the votes" they need.
They tell people what they want to hear to convince them to sign up for the Republican team. They conduct polls, use the media to put out messages, they send out flyers, make calls, whatever it takes, (What they learned from Connecticut, who was the first state to ever use this strategy to win elections)
So then you end up with voters who fight for what they THINK their party is for, and politicians that have to keep up with the lies.
The people I feel the most sympathy for is the Tea Party. They are the most confused. Like the Jeffersonian Republicans, they are for states' rights and against a strong federal government. They are for" Joe Sixpack " and common folk. They are fighting for what they THINK their party is for, but as you have seen, once they got any power, the REAL Republican Federalist base started attacking THEM.
The Occupy Wall Street protesters are right on the money. They know who the REAL enemy is... It's not the federal government, it's the BANKS, the elites, the ones Jefferson opposed having the power in this country.
This country is supposed to be By the People, For The People. That is what the Constituion protects. Because of the enormous power the banks have acquired here and around the world, by USING the strong federal government to pass legistlation in their favor, the common people are left defenseless, unless that SAME government stands up for them... us. So BOTH parties are trying to use the same government to fight each other. That's what we are seeing today in Washington.
If the Occupy protestors need a goal, it is to clarify the issues and force people to see the truth.