As far-right attacks against Sandra Fluke intensify, President Obama called the Georgetown Law student this afternoon to express his support. She was at MSNBC at the time, and talked to Andrea Mitchell moments after speaking to the president.
Fluke, talking about her conversation with Obama, said, "He encouraged me and supported me and thanked me for speaking out about the concerns of American women, and what was really personal for me was that he said to tell my parents that they should be proud, and that meant a lot because Rush Limbaugh questioned whether or not my family would be proud of me. So I just appreciated that very much."
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters that Obama reached out because of the president's "disappointment with the fact that she has been the subject of inappropriate personal attacks."
Presumably, Obama's direct outreach to Fluke takes the story to a level that the Republican presidential candidates can and should be asked about Limbaugh's attacks.
For his part, the right-wing host isn't backing down -- he delivered another harangue today -- and conservatives are rallying behind him, but Limbaugh is driving away advertisers. A second sponsor, Sleep Number, pulled out today.
Meanwhile, Georgetown University is also coming to the defense of Fluke. John DeGioia, president of Georgetown, said Limbaugh's tirades "can only be described as misogynistic, vitriolic, and a misrepresentation of the position of our student."
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Another liberal moocher. Go to planned parenthood and pick up some free condoms. Quit asking the rest of us to pay for your sex lfe.
Well, thank you for showing that you pay no attention to the real media and news shows who have been showing charts and graphs for a very long time which illustrate that Planned Parenthood is mostly about preventative health care that has nothing to do with sex.
I notice people like you have no problem with men getting viagra or vasectomies through Planned Parenthood or their Medical Insurance. You don't give a dame about who is paying for what. All you care about is shoving unconstitutional laws into women's wombs.
If it was a liberal news person who was acting like a pig on air you right-wingers would be out with pitchforks and bats looking to string them up. How very spineless.
Another barbaric idiotic conservative! Female contraception, as you would know if you actually listened to Ms/ Fluke instead of just listening to Pillhead, isn't used only for the prevention of pregnancy. There are medical conditions that the pill regulates. On a side note; Don't be mad cause she is getting some and you aren't.
Wow, contessa61, you've missed the point, haven't you?
You are seriously disillusioned.
Everyone repeat this line the next time a right-winger factually misrepresents the information:
No one is being asked to pay for anything they didn't sign up for. This has to do with what will be covered under your INSURANCE policy. Your insurance policy is mandated to include preventative care at no additional cost beyond the monthly premium which YOU pay. No one is asking that contraception be provided for 'free' just that it be included as part of your basic medical care package to your insurance policy.
If the right wing insists on beating the 'it's something for nothing' myth then explain to them that such a myth is anti-capitalism.
What Ms. Fluke actually said during her testimony:
http://www.whatthefolly.com/2012/02/23/transcript-sandra-fluke-testifies-on-why-women-should-be-allowed-access-to-contraception-and-reproductive-health-care/
Read this before rushing to judgment.
contessa61, the only real difference between a liberal and a conservative is this:
They both get contraception, they both have abortions, they both have sex, etc. The liberals are proud of their bodies and their god given freedoms to exercise their personal liberties.
The conservative do the same things but keep it a secret from others. I used to be a conservative Pastor. I saw this more in conservative people than I did in liberal people.
Time for you to take the blinders off and stop being a sheep led to the slaughter.
Contessa you are so uninformed I would happily approve my tax dollars going for her sex life and any other man or woman's sex life. I rather prevent unwanted pregnancies. If God wanted us to have sex for procreation alone he would not have made it such a pleasurable experience. It is sad that you are not only against contraception but I am sure you are also against the social programs that are needed for the additional lives that are brought into this world. If you want to make a difference adopt or take in foster children. Raise them to be responsible, respectful adults like I am doing. I am raising three boys and I am teaching them to be sexually responsible unlike there biological mother.
It's a deal, Contessa61. Just don't ask us to pay for your therapist....
Birth control is used for other things besides preventing pregnancy you moron. It helps to control irregular menstrual cycles and endometriosis, and reduce the risk of cervical cancer, among other things. Don't know what those are? Because you're not a woman! And some of us women would prefer to be on birth control so we don't have to use condoms with our husbands for a more pleasurable experience OR use the so we don't have to take risks using the rhythm method in order to avoid having another child IF WE DON'T WANT ONE. That's our business between our families and doctors. All of you crazy conservatives who preach about no abortions ought to be happy that 99% of women want to use birth control in order to avoid unwanted pregnancies, thus reducing the number of abortions. And all ignorant men like yourself should stay out of this conversation unless you know what you're talking about.
If you would like to get past your knee jerking, you'd learn that contraceptives *lower* the cost of health insurance - pregnancies are very expensive.
*NOBODY* is being asked to pay extra for something, insurers are being asked to take a reasonable cost-cutting measure that nobody but a bunch of atavistic religious nuts would oppose.
This sort of reminds me of "Get your government hands off my Medicare!"
Those on the right do not listen. They think that people who pay monthly premiums are getting something free when they get birth control. That is as dumb as saying you are getting free gas after paying for it at the pump.
How ignorant are you, contessa? Hormonal contraceptives treat many conditions unrelated to sex, and indeed, Sandra Fluke testified about one of them. She testified about a friend who had lost an ovary to a condition that could be treated with contraceptives.
As a side note: my wife has been on "the pill" for more than 30 years for menstrual regulation reasons. We did our homework and get the generic prescription for 12.00 for a 3 month supply at Costco. (some pharmacies will match Costco's price if you aren't a member).
I totally agree that insurance should cover the perscription but this may help until all is settled.
As we approach the elections we have come full circle with Rush Limbaugh. When Obama started his term, Limbaugh was the face of the Republican party. If contraception is going to be a big issue for the Republicans in the upcoming elections, then Limbaugh will be the face of that issue. He is the gift that keeps on giving.
Well, thank you Contessa for showing that you pay no attention to the real media and news shows who have been showing charts and graphs for a very long time which illustrate that Planned Parenthood is mostly about preventative health care that has nothing to do with sex.
I notice people like you have no problem with men getting viagra or vasectomies through Planned Parenthood or their Medical Insurance. You don't give a dame about who is paying for what. All you care about is shoving unconstitutional laws into women's wombs.
If it was a liberal news person who was acting like a pig on air you right-wingers would be out with pitchforks and bats looking to string them up. How very spineless.
Why is contraception such a hot button issue? This isn't the 1950s. I would think the GOP would be better off making the economy, jobs or infrastructure the BIG topic. Those are what really matter to all of us right now. These other topics are just distractions. Contraception....abortion. Sure... discuss them as part of the healthcare reform...but don't let anyone make it the focus of all attention and the main issue of a campaign.
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Wow, there's some irony, dating and flowers were some of the sponsors of Rush. Just what a guy needs to apologize with for listening to Rush in the first place.
Some of the sites indicate they have pulled the advertising.
Candi, the reasons for contraception becoming a hot button are deeply layered, and almost entirely speculation. They range from the superficial distraction from the slowly recovering economy and baiting of the religious tea bagger base to turn them out to vote in November, to more insidious speculation about wanting to force women out of the job market, and the fear that if things continue as they have been going, Mexicans will be the majority race in this nation in the not-too-distant future.
There are a thousand points in between. Basically, old white conservatives are bunched, and if I'm right, what we're seeing is the last desperate throes of a dying ideology. Change is hard for some people, and rather than participating in it to ease the transition, they try frantically to turn back to a time when they felt safe and comfortable (usually childhood...). For this particular group, that's the 50's.
In the fifties, we didn't have black presidents, two-income families weren't common, most faces were white - those that weren't knew their place - and Father Always Knew Best.
Also, abortion was illegal and contraception hit-or-miss.
As a side note: my wife has been on "the pill" for more than 30 years for menstrual regulation reasons. We did our homework and get the generic prescription for 12.00 for a 3 month supply at Costco. (some pharmacies will match Costco's price if you aren't a member).
I totally agree that insurance should cover the perscription but this may help until all is settled.
Greg Sargent (WaPost) observation that this escalates this to the Presidential campaign is spot on. Accidental or calculated move? What do you think?
Obama's move is so genius. This forces questions on Romney and Santorum to either rebuke the comments or to double down on them. What a tar baby of an issue, more opportunity to engage in more circular firing squad behavior with Angry White Male (AM) radio talk hosts.
It looks more like Romney and Santorum are playing Russian roulette with a bullet in every chamber.
John, you're absolutely correct about Pres. Obama's call to Ms. Fluke being an inspired bit of genius. As I noted much lower in the thread, "Given how 'hot' an issue Republicans have made women's health and contraception, Pres. Obama's call to her is - in its own way - as brilliant as when Jack Kennedy called Coretta Scott King after Dr. King was arrested during the 1960 campaign. JFK took the issue of civil rights to a much higher level, and Pres. Obama did the same thing today for women's health."
@Mike Paganucci -- I would describe it as a circular firing squad, with all the GOP wannabees in the circle, including Michelle "Cure the Gay" Bachmann, and Rick "Execute Them" Perry.
The savagery and vitriol found in the Republican Party's brutal assault on the rights of women is best represented by the insane and destructive comments of Limbaugh, calling women who dare to use birth control "sluts" and urging them to post pornographic videos online. Rush would like that, wouldn't he. No amount of hate from the right changes the pure fact that this is a losing issue for the GOP. A culture war fight over access to birth control is an election year gift to Democrats and Obama. they ought to use it to their advantage. http://www.sunstateactivist.org
And how about we keep unhelpful Liberal comments out of the mix. Bill Maher opened his mouth, and words I'm aghast at came out: Liberals should accept Rush Limbaugh's apology and move on???
First of all, the "apology" was not made to liberals. Sandra Fluke was the individual attacked, and to whom the "apology" was directed. It was her choice to determine it was insincere and reject it. Many, many women support her decision.
Second, the apology was utterly without sincerity. After three days of spew, taking back "slut" and "prostitute" is not an apology, it's a slap in the face to add to the injury of the words.
Third, Limbaugh is only saying what republicans are actually thinking, and there is simply no apology for that!
Fourth: IT'S NOT MEN WHO GET TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE "APOLOGY" SHOULD BE ACCEPTED!
Men: You clearly don't understand the impact of those words, nor the damage done to women in general when men allow each other to treat women this way.
Rush Limbaugh did NOT make a sincere apology. He is NOT sorry for what he said, and he WILL say crap like that again because it's how he thinks. Losing sponsors doesn't seem to bother him, but losing his microphone might.
Someone ought to ask Limpdick what he's doing on those "Viagra vacations" he takes to the Dominican Republic, the capital of child prostitution in the western hemisphere.
Even more than that worthless piece of @!$%# Dimbart, I want to have Limpdick found face down in a dark alley bleeding out from a large-caliber exit wound. It can't happen too soon for this Goebbels-wannabee.
This post is as bad as anything Rush said and no one, no one has called this commenter to task. Wow. Quite the opposite, 8 at my posting have given it their vote of approval. Wow.
I have to agree RobDon, TCinLA's post is out of line. We get nowhere with calls for, or glorification of, violence against those with whom we disagree or even despise.
So glad I already don't patronize businesses that give money to Limburger. I vote with my feet, my pocket book and my actual vote. I don't support businesses that support nastiness like this.
Contessa, no one is asking you to pay for anything, so why are you bunched? Feeling a need to micro-manage the personal lives of those around you? You say liberal like you're trying to make it a dirty word. But it's like the word honkey: just funny.
Those of us who are liberal are proud of it. It means we think for ourselves and are willing to embrace change. Those of you who are conservative should be ashamed of yourselves. Keep waving your limburger flag, making it easier for us to smell you, and dismiss you as irrelevant.
Repeating from the above since I think it's relevant here too. Sorry to piggyback ya peanut ;-)
Everyone repeat this line the next time a right-winger factually misrepresents the information:
No one is being asked to pay for anything they didn't sign up for. This has to do with what will be covered under your INSURANCE policy. Your insurance policy is mandated to include preventative care at no additional cost beyond the monthly premium which YOU pay. No one is asking that contraception be provided for 'free' just that it be included as part of your basic medical care package to your insurance policy.
If the right wing insists on beating the 'it's something for nothing' myth then explain to them that such a myth is anti-capitalism.
Unless I'm missing the point, this whole issue began as dispute over religious freedom. The Catholic Church stated they should not have to violate their teachings because of a government mandate. The Pres' compromise was to say the Church would not have to pay, the insurance companies would pay.
OK. So, a church org who self insures will not pay for contraception. It defines the policy benefits and hires someone to administer the policy. Who pays for contraception? Can a women go to administrator and say they want contraception?
Who pays? As usual, the Pres dances around the issue. Wait for the new rules are issued before getting excited
The insurance company has to pay. If they self insure then they have to pay. That is something that the church would be choosing to do. Additionally Tom even if they are self-insured they would not be notified that an employee was using contraception. That information would be entirely confidential. The only thing they would know is that she receives a monthly or tri-monthly charge of X amount. That would be it.
Tom, the analogy is that insurance companies will pay for glass chips in your windshield for free. It is cheaper for them to pay for the chip or small crack than pay for an entire windshield when the crack increases in size.
Sibelius and the administration have not been dancing around the topic at all. From the start they pointed out that insurance companies pay out far less in coverage if they give away contraceptives free than if they don't. Unwanted pregnancies are much more expensive for insurance companies.
Conservatives believe employers should have the right to discriminate against employees with different faiths.
One thing that is disturbing is that religions like Christian Science teach that medicine is the tool of the devil, so an employer with that kind of faith would naturally wish to discriminate against every employee by denying all health care coverage. Parents don't even immunize their children, which has caused outbreaks.
The Blunt Amendment would make whacky stuff like Christian Science way more popular.
Two points:
If the insurance co is only acting as an administrator, processing claims according to the policy's benefits, the Church is not paying for the benefit. Will the insurance co pass the cost to other customers outside the plan?
The firm I retired from is self insured. The administrator only follows the plan benefits prescribed by the employer. The employer only pays processing costs and for providing a help desk.
So, where's the free lunch.
There isn't a free lunch that's the whole point. No one was asking for a handout. All they wanted was to have it covered. The way the insurance policy is set up now 80 cents of every dollar you spend must go to cover your health. The majority of that or at least a significant portion is to be spent on preventative health care and contraception was included in that preventative plan. The church's are objecting to contraception being included. The employee has to pay the monthly cost just like you do at any insurance company. You just get- as the employee- the benefit of pooling together w/ your employer for negotiated low costs. This requirement, for the record, will not take place until 2014 when the Insurance Exchange is set up. Then businesses can take their employees and use that pooling to purchase the cheapest, but best coverage they can find for their employees on the market. They will get to pool their resources together like they do now to help lower costs, but they will also have the additional benefit of those pooled costs being compared to the rest of the area. So it helps lower it. So like my plan costs me 180$/mo out of my paycheck (that's just for health insurance- I get dental and vision too which brings my total to 200$/mo). This plan will, at least in the hypothetical, drop my cost down from 180$/mo to something like $150/mo or even less. Thereby making that insurance more affordable. The only time a subsidy will come into the mix from the federal government would be in instances where the employees are paid a low salary and that employees salary or net home income is not significant enough to cover the cost of their health insurance. If that is the cast the government will subsidize the business to bring down the cost. That only will apply to companies like Wal Mart or other such businesses. Most businesses won't be affected by that clause. This was never about a handout. I have no idea where the far-right got the idea that Ms. Fluke was arguing for free contraception. She was arguing that contraception should be included as part of her insurance policy- that was it.
@contessa61 - I don't see you complaining about the "moochers" on Cialis, Levitra and Viagra. Those drugs are always covered by insurance companies, yet their ONLY purpose is for sex. Birth control drugs (which are generally hormones) are often prescribed for purposes OTHER than contraception. They are effective in the treatment of numerous health issues such as ovarian cysts, endometriosis and amenorrhea, among others.
exactly. if Rush has problems keeping it up and I don't why should I have to pay for his Viagra through my premiums? but why stop there: if I don't like Dick Cheney, why should I have to pay for his life-saving cardiac care? who cares that this logic makes the entire social fabric - not to mention insurance risk pooling - unravel to the point where even contessa has to pay full freight for medical costs. . .
I was always puzzled when I would hear in the news that Dick Cheney had had a heart attack. I was under the impression that in order to have a heart attack, you must first have a heart!
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@CA......ROFL
find it interesting that Limbaugh is ok with men oriented health insurance contraceptives and sex aids like Viagra and Vasectomies....but when a woman asks for birth control to be covered, she is labeled as a slut.
Yes, and to go back to the issue of Sandra Fluke not being allowed to speak on the subject, I propose that men who were not virgins before marriage not be allowed to speak on the topic of female contraception.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right? Then, since self-pleasuring doesn't require contraception, nor does homosexual sex, men are always half of the equation in contraception issues.
What kind of person labels the woman a slut, and ignores the man?
@Contessa61, go be mean somewhere else, please. And apologies to everyone else who replied -- Your comments all got deleted automatically along with Contessa's.
Oh Laura you worry too much! You know we love you, no worries ;-)
Thank you, Laura! "Contessa" has been posting inane and illogical comments for several weeks now. I don't have a problem with someone who has views different than mine posting their opinion. But "Contessa" simply spews vile nonsense and offers nothing to back up her or his position.
Ditto, ditto and ditto #9.1 :)
Ditto. With an opinion.
Sometimes I spend time reading information in the National Library of Medicine,
Interesting and timely post, CA. Was watching footage of Limbaugh today (who wasn't?), and the man (loosely speaking) looked genuinely dumbfounded when asked, paraphrasing here, why are you so mean to people? It was obvious that he did not comprehend that anyone would think such a thing of him, even though anyone who has ever listened to his broadcasts knows he can be vicious and brutal with seemingly little provocation. The utter confusion and near helplessness he seemed to be experiencing from the question was eye-opening for me. The guy is obviously suffering mental illness, but I personally still can't excuse him.
wyzburro she is uneducated in what Planned Parenthood is truly about. She is a hypocrite who wants to save the unborn but not fund the social services these children will need.
Anybody publish a list of Limbaugh's sponsors? I need to know who not to buy stuff from.
http://www.topplebush.com/boycott_rush.shtml
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eHarmony? They have to be kidding. eHarmony is one of Rush's sponsors? I guess a bunch of calls to eHarmony might be in order under the circumstances.
Yes. I already did contact EHarmony. They are not happy at all. But that is how boycotts work. Here are two responses from Overstock dot com that I got today. The first one was within 30 minutes of my initial contact and the second was within an hour.
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They don't advertise with him him any longer and are very interested in keeping our business ! They must have seen the light about what a pig he is a long time ago.
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This is how effective boycotts really are. You are done like dinner Rush Limbaugh !
eHarmony is a Christian-run enterprise. They refuse to try to match gay folks. Sounds like the owner's in complete sympathy with Limbaugh, though he might not want that information out there too loudly.
Very good point Chris.
Rush has had four wives over about 30 years, and has no children. I he asexual? Has he been shooting blanks? Or are all four women sluts who've used birth control?
But the good thing is that his genes are out of the pool!
Is he a closet ' rump ranger ' like most of his Republican ' buddies ' ? Most women-haters are.
Y'know, I'm thinkin' that slurring gay guys by associating them with Republican misogynists is as uncool as saying women who require birth control are sluts.
You are absolutely right. It wasn't intended as a slur to gay guys at all but a comment about how men who hate women the way Rush does are usually closeted. My apologies for the unintended slur.
Interestingly, that is the same question that Keith Olbermann postulated on his show last night.
http://www.sodahead.com/entertainment/is-rush-limbaugh-gay/question-2500049/
http://adamfoxie.blogspot.com/2012/03/is-rush-limbaugh-gay.html
Who pays for the free condoms at Planned Parenthood?
If insurance pays for Viagra and Cialis maybe the men can start taping themselves doing the nasty. Fair is fair, and I'm paying for it.
You know??? It is ridiculous that any of us even have to try and explain why birth control is needed anyway. This is just an attack on women...PERIOD!!!! I am telling all my friends to go to the FCC's website and file a complaint with them about Rush Limbaugh. He needs to be taken down. He is an arrogant moron who was busted with Viagra (that wasn't even prescribed to him) and he has the nerve to make any kind of derogatory statement to this intelligent woman who was speaking out for women all over the world. Please...boycott his advertisers and complain to the FCC, Clear Channel and Premier Radio. We must not be silenced. Thank you President Obama!!!! You have proven, once again, that you are not the norm when it comes to Narcissistic politicians. Thank you!
More like this. It IS ridiculous that we have to stoop to explaining to anyone how wrong Limbaugh is and precisely why. But he may be doing everyone a small favor by throwing such hateful... softballs. The easy, obvious retorts might make it through the skulls of some social conservatives who aren't hopeless dittoheads... maybe. And the President couldn't have been any brighter than seizing this opportunity to force the issue and almost force Santorum and Romney to hoist themselves on it.
Obama makes me so proud! And so does Ms. Fluke, speaking up for all the wombs in the room, thank you very much!
Ms. Fluke is a remarkable young woman and her parents have every right to be proud of her. So does the entire nation.
Given how "hot" an issue Republicans have made women's health and contraception, Pres. Obama's call to her is - in its own way - as brilliant as when Jack Kennedy called Coretta Scott King after Dr. King was arrested during the 1960 campaign. JFK took the issue of civil rights to a much higher level, and Pres. Obama did the same thing today for women's health.
Ms. Fluke, if I may make a personal comment: Even though we've never met, may I say that you have shown remarkable presence, poise and civility over the past 10 days. Whereever you go to work after law school will be incredibly lucky to get you.
Well said.
I find it interesting that the Republican Party would choose this as the most important issue in the election right now. As Bill Clinton said in his campaign "It's about jobs!" We have far bigger issues to be concerned with. I don't think we need to be worried about Planned Parenthood or what a woman does with her uterus. This is all smoke and mirrors to drive the religious right into a frenzy and they are playing right into it. Limbaugh has always been a hateful person and he has shown again that he can get his ratings up by spewing hateful messages to the masses.
They're hoping that the tactics of 2004 will work in 2012. I'm not sure they're wrong. It's many months to November and a lot can happen. Right now this is their plan C. Attacking him on economy and foreign relations is a losing prospect for now so it's plan C until they can get more steam in plans A and B. Even if they never get traction and lose the White House, it's Congress where they want to keep/gain seats. This kind of crap works well on the Congressional level where gerrymandering protects individual seats.
I think it's more a diversion to conceal the fact that they have no plan and no useful policies to promote.
We should have figured this out when certain lawmakers stood up and stated candidly that their sole goal was to make Obama a one-term president. They have spent all of their time and energies (and a considerable amount of capital) trying to hamper Obama's success, and attempting to hoodwink voters into thinking they have anything constructive or helpful to offer. Their goal has not been to do anything positive for voters and other Americans -- it has been to impede progress of anything proposed or promoted by democrats.
All of this PT Barnuming is just a sideshow to distract people from the truth.
Contessa, how exactly are you paying for our birth control? By that logic, I'm paying for a diabetic's insulin, or Rush's viagra, or lipitor for someone who chooses bacon double cheeseburgers over salads.
Limbaugh should stop talking about birth control pills & start talking about PAIN PILLS. Now there's a subject he knows something about!!!
This kind of reminds me of "Get your government hands off my Medicare!"
I noticed that my comment got deleted and I was disappointed. I hate these pro-lifers who talk the talk but do not walk the walk. Let's take care of the lives that are here adopt, foster the kids that are here. I adopted three boys and I am teaching them to be responsible, respectful and fun to be around. I told my oldest when he turned 15 years old that was how old his mother was when she had him. Keep it in your pants do not have sex unless you are prepared to raise a child or get an STD. I am all for my tax dollars going for contraception and for abortion as long as it is not used as contraception. We need better forms of birth control and men need to get under control as well. Woman pay a much higher price for sex than men do they are supposed to be our protectors where is the protection?
What's wrong, too weak and *female* to get your own protection? Not having a penis means you can't manage your own decisions intelligently and maturely? Well then, grow up. I'm a woman too, and I don't need a man to manage my life for me.
And what do you mean, "we need better forms of birth control"? You would refuse to let women have them anyway. The pill works great, and not just for preventing pregnancy.
ShadeTail birth control is the responsibility of both participants. Just because women can get pregnant does not mean birth control is just our responsibility. Men need to prevent pregnancy as well. When will these male politicians take responsibility for there sexual behavior? Why are the women being punished?
Remember the pill does work great but you have to be responsible enough to take it properly. Also look how many times we have seen recalls on the pill we do need other forms of birth control especially for men. They only have two they need more.
I'm thinking perhaps I misunderstood your comment, but your reply rubs me the wrong way for precisely the same reason as your original comment. Nowhere did I say that it is only one person's responsibility, but it sure seemed that *you* were saying that, and it still seems that way. First you complained about how men are neglecting to protect us, and now you're implying that women don't know how to be responsible with the pill. Also, all the recalls I've seen were caused by manufacturers' mistakes. The effectiveness of the pill itself isn't in question here.
I do apologize for my earlier tone.
Thank you Sandra for speaking up for women, both those like me, who need birth control to treat medical illness, and those who use it to prevent unplanned pregnancy. I'd like to also note that there may be all kinds of social stigma associated with being a "slut" but the last I checked, it was legal. Even if a woman is promiscuous, even if she is behaving in a way that is "morally objectionable" to others, that is her right. I find it morally objectionable that a bully with a radio show is given the power to slander a good woman's name... but I recognize that while I have a problem with this behavior, it is protected behavior in this free nation of ours. If I wanted to, I could behave in sexually promiscuous way and not only should all details of my sex life be totally and completely beyond the grasp of the federal government... so should it be free from persecution through my access to medical care or insurance coverage. If Newt Gingrich can be a slut and run for our highest office, any woman in America ought to have permission to sleep with whomever she wants, knowing she has access to her choice of family planning and reproductive health care. Choosing to take responsibility for oneself may be a foreign concept for Rush, but Sandra's willingness to put herself on the line for all of us shows us that she will have history on her side. PS Thank you POTUS for showing everyone else how we should respond to this fine woman.
What do you call a woman who has sexual encounter with more than one man in her live? "A slut"
What do you call a man who has more sexual encounter with more than one woman in his live? "A hunk"
Ironic isn't it?
I notice that two mattress companies have withdrawn as advertisers for Limbaugh.
Guess they don't want any romantic activities taking place on their mattresses to have a Limbaugh pall over them.
I still don't understand what 'vein' the GOP thinks their tapping with this. Do people become Republicans because they hate women? Just wondering...
They become republicans because they hear the words conservative party. What they fail to realize it is a conservative party for the rich. I live a conservative lifestyle but I do not vote republican because I am not rich I am working class poor.
Because there are still people who blame sinners (who are naturally other people) for everything that goes wrong in their own lives. Look at the comments sections on the news reports regarding any recent natural disasters (midwest tornadoes are big right now) and you will inevitably find someone doing a Pat Robertson, blaming sinners for God's wrath.
I put that in quotes because in the beginning she was described as a Georgetown law student. It was then revealed that prior to attending Georgetown she was an active women’s right advocate. In one of her first interviews she is quoted as talking about how she reviewed Georgetown’s insurance policy prior to committing to attend, and seeing that it didn’t cover contraceptive services, she decided to attend with the express purpose of battling this policy. During this time, she was described as a 23-year-old coed. Magically, at the same time Congress is debating the forced coverage of contraception, she appears and is even brought to Capitol Hill to testify. This morning, in an interview with Matt Lauer on the Today show, it was revealed that she is 30 years old, NOT the 23 that had been reported all along. 3/2/12
Let us not focus on the messenger and lose sight of her message.
This is a POLITICAL firestorm, and the arsonists are all registered Republicans!
What's your point? She wasn't allowed to testify about something that she has a lot of information about, unlike that sausage-fest that WAS allowed to testify.
So? Is your point that women's rights activists shouldn't be allowed to get law degrees? You're looking for a conspiracy that isn't there. Her age isn't the issue.
Your point is? She saw an injustice and decided to do something about it.
You know that Rosa Parks was a secretary for the NAACP and a civil rights worker when she sparked the Montgomery Bus Boycott, right? Does that make her contribution to civil rights less correct or important?
Voters in Flyover Country are a simple folk, clinging to their Bibles and their guns, keeping their women barefoot and pregnant, and their offspring ignorant of the outside world. You get their vote by appealing to their fears of The Other, be it Hollywood gays or Taxachusetts abortionists.
My apologies to any Red State residents who do not fit this description; as always, it is the exception that proves the rule.
As a liberal Democrat from one of those Red States I accept the apology as long as you keep us in your thoughts (and/or prayers). I have to live with neighbors that honestly think "if only the schools forced prayer on everyone, that would improve scores and graduation rates!"