UPDATE: The Rachel Maddow Show will be live at Midnight ET as well!
Tonight's guests include:
Ron Allen, NBC News correspondent at Scott Walker headquarters
Alex Moe, NBC News campaign embed reporter at Tom Barrett headquarters
State Sen. Jon Erpenbach, (D) Wisconsin
While watching tonight's preview, take a listen to tonight's soundtrack. (Just be sure to allow the ad below to play out entirely before starting the song.)
Executive producer Bill Wolff shares a preview of tonight's show:
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I've noticed some commentators 'hinting' that all the money spent on the recall is Wisconsin taxpayer money. This, perhaps, to anger Wisconsin voters. Actually, the recall is an economic boom for Wisconsin...TV/Radio stations, printers, hotels, transportation, restaurants, consultants etc.. I have not heard anyone mention the recall as a boom to the state (sort of like a sporting championship event)
Still time to make five phone calls for Barrett. Keep pushing from around the nation. Let voters in Wisconsin sane enough to vote for Barrett know that we are behind them
They make it so easy
http://www.barrettforwisconsin.com/media/blog/2012-06-kris-and-i-voted-can-you-make-5-gotv-calls
Since the equal pay for women bill did not pass...........why don't the Democrats put forth a bill that LOWERS MEN'S SALARIES TO MATCH WOMENS???????? What a concept...
Cindy
that would work only if employers would except lowered work output by the men to match the women's
I think that this is a joke... but if its not, I commend the clarity in your statement... My response? Geee that sounds great! After that we can race to the bottom of other aspects of society. And when we are done we can sit around and complain about how we are living in a world wide communist state where everyone's wages will be the exact same and because our social programs are so bad we won't realize that by procreating we are further shoving society (remember we all have the same income) in to poverty because if we all have the same income and are entitled to the same resources equally... well you can see where this will end... Like.... A race... to... the bottom/extinction!
Cindy H I like your thinking, it makes about as much sense as dividing WI resdients between the ones that have a good job with good benefits and those that don't...remedy to this one is to chastise those with good jobs and good benefits.
Now I found something interesting, while I was watching a show, when it was on the show where they talked about some businessmen being like Psychopaths. These businessmen take great joy in bringing misery and despair on People, as they wanted wealth, power, and control over everybody. Does this ring a bell, I wonder with some of these Politicians and Businessmen causing all this trouble, if they really could be like Psychopaths. These people definitely do have some bad tendencies to do some really destructive things and seem to get great pleasure out of it. It certainly would explain a lot of things and why these people could never be trusted.
I do not have a TV. At one time I watched Rachel every night on my computer, but those links don't seem to work any longer. Can you give me a link to watch her live online?
Thanks,
Pat Weston
St. Louis MO
Try http://rachel.msnbc.com for video clips or http://podcastfeeds.nbcnews.com/audio/podcast/MSNBC-MADDOW-NETCAST-M4V.xml for podcasts (or http://podcasts.msnbc.com )
If you have wifi, or broadband, you can download the rachel maddow show for free from itunes, Pat. I download the audio podcast when I don't have the high speed to dl the video podcast
I don't understand how Bill Wolff (or anyone else) can make sarcastic remarks about al-Libi being dead without also mentioning the innocent civilians our president and his military are murdering with each drone strike.
How does Obama live with himself? How can he kiss his own daughters good night while knowing he's just slaughtered someone else's young daughters?
And how can Bill Wolff act as if this is not worth mentioning?
Tomorrow is June 6- anniversary of D-DaY..I think it's time for another D-Day, retaking Washington DC from the tea party and all thos rightwing financed lobbyists who are dragging the US into Fascism
Elementary
What if our educational system was based more on memorizing, than actually doing ? What would it look like ? And how would our hands-on type of kids perform in that setting ? Also, why are there so many team efforts in our schools in order to produce winners and losers ? Our kids don’t get enough of that at home ? Win what ? Lose what ? Are you kidding me ? ? . . .
Rachel....9:50 PM Eastern....8:50 PM Central...polls are closed. Why aren't we seeing live poll results from Wisconsin streaming across the bottom of the MSNBC screen like we are seeing on other news channels? You were intent on the recall election just 4 days ago....last Friday! Why the change of heart? Is this PERHAPS a left-wing liberal media NEWS outlet not showing the NEWS but maybe concentrating on other convenient events of the day?
Nah, this is Ed's chubby...... Maybe she'll go live at 11pm for post-spin recap(setting the DVR).
What was notable about the recall efforts is that the post-middle class/poor have been pointedly shut out of the discussion. The recall election was defined exclusively in terms of being for "middle class workers." So far, the middle class has shrunk by nearly 1/3. WI, under Republican rule, has lost hundreds of thousands of middle class jobs. Can we afford to keep turning our backs on all those pushed into poverty? In doing voter reachout, mainly among the rural poor, we often encountered the response: "Why bother? It's just about middle class workers." I couldn't argue that point.
Perhaps it shows the what's in it for me mentality of the post-middle class/poor?
Unfortunately, yes. Especially in WI, which took the lead in throwing the poor off the cliff. This is the first time in the long history (over a century) of US Progressives that the poor have been completely shut out, and we're seeing the results. Here in WI, they were pushed out of the discussion leading up to the recall election. WI Dems brought in the rich Ed "Middle Class" Schultz (who refuses to discuss poverty on his show) and Bill "Kill the New Deal" Clinton, and for many of the post-middle class, this was the final straw that determined their decisions about the recall election. I don't know how it is in other states, but in WI, we have seen in election after election how shutting out the poor keeps costing elections for Democrats. I suspect the Dems/media will twist themselves into pretzels trying to explain how the recall could have turned out as it did, without mentioning the poor, which will ensure that we will see a repeat in the presidential election. Maybe we should re-think having a Dem Party that stands only for the better-off.
I have a ton of respect for you but for you to announce a projected winner in the Wisconsin Governors race while people were still in line to vote was beyond irrisponsible. Reports are coming in of people leaving the line at polling stations in Milwaukee and Racine after hearing that you called the race. Very disappointed.
9:51pm: NBC News declared Walker the winner, with 37% of the vote in.
People are still in line to vote in heavily Democratic central Milwaukee, Fitchburg, Dane County - 10:03 P.M.
WTF!?!
Three hours to clear a line??? Seriously??
The ballot had all but what - six check boxes on it?
even NBC could smeel the cofee........they called it correctly
Hey madcow, those wind mill sin the back ground of you TV ad, were made in china...
Next show me a ground transportation vehicle that runs on electricity....
Governor Walker has won in Wisconsin by a landslide. The New Fascists continue to run the deck.
This event has caused me to rethink my prediction that President Obama will be reelected to a second term. I am going on record right now that as the New Fascists continue to run the deck they will retake the presidency and the majority in the Senate as well.
Listen up kiddies, democracy in America is dead, Hail to the Roberts Court, Hail Charles and David Koch, et al. You heard it here first.
So you are basically saying that the average American voter is stupid. That they believe anything they see or hear in a campaign ad. Basically even someone that normally votes Democratic now will vote Republican because of Citizens United and all the money spent by folks like to Koch brothers. What a sad statement on the American voter. Rather than research and get involved they will vote based on the number of lawn signs and misleading ads they see.
I do not care if someone or something spends Billions more than the candidate that shares my core beliefs, I would still not vote for them.
Walker "divided and conquered" (with the help of outside money at a seven to one advantage). How? By splitting rural Wisconsin progressivism from urban liberalism. Think about it.
See my post above (15.1)
I read it. Most people simply don't spend as much time thinking about politics as perhaps you and I do. Wisconsin progressivism came out of farm cooperatives and was both anti-urban and anti-urban corporatism. As such, many of our most socialistic programs came out of its progressivism, of which I suspect they are very proud.
Walker played that...the pride Wisconsinites have in their State and one another, while Democrats turned to more recent urban liberalism, composed of national union support, national liberal media support and, in general, national interest groups. IMO, albeit their good intentions, the wrong thing to do was to have Ed Schulz broadcasting from Madison, Jessie Jackson coming up from Chicago to support them, and the national teachers union and AFL-CIO roll into town to shake things up. Democrats tend to forget how much importance people put into their States...particularly nationally oriented urban liberals.
That and an awful lot of advertising and money, created the perception in the Wisconsin voter's mind that it was "us against them."
If Democrats want to win in swing states, they will have to hold their usb an base, while learning to be more sympathetic to the problems of rural America.
Biut, win or lose in 2012, demographics will destroy the Republican Party over the next twenty years or so...tbis is sort of the Last Stand of the Old White Dudes...and - ultimately - assuming we remain a democratic country - they are going to have to take what they can of their money and leave...assuming they want to hang on to it.
What they don't seem to realize is that Obama is actually pretty mainstream and their best chances for wealth retention are right here.
P.S. Seems mis-worded. Democratic, nationally oriented urban liberals seem to forget how much importance rural America places in State government. At a state level, many rural Americans look to their State representatives and elected officials to protect them from the perceived abuses of urban America, even the urban centers within their own States.
This is the beginning of the end of unsustainable generous public employee benefits. Next up CA.
Kill the unions and you kill what is left of the American middle class.
no its not you idiot. its the start of the way it should be. middle class movement up the chain you @!$%#
Why? Why should a business owner, who is in business to make money, pay anyone anymore than he or she has to?
The pressure of unions helped create the American middle class. Helped establish health and safety regulations and end child labor. You want to go backwards? why?
Why should a business owner, who is in business to make money, pay anyone anymore than he or she has to? Sounds like the free market to me. Good Point Stone!
92.2% reporting with an average difference of 185,000 with a variance of only 5,000 over the last 60 minutes ... how is this possible?
Once again we see the failure of the evolution of the species. Will there be a follow-up book entitled "What's Wrong With Wisconsin?" The short-sightedness of the non-union voters is astounding. Don't they see that they are next in line for benefit cuts, wage cuts, 401(k) contribution cuts, etc? All in the name of fiefdom (formerly known as democracy). The inability of the WI voters to foresee the day when they will all be subject to the laws of the corporations, indicates that tonight, they've gotten what they deserve. Until they learn the lesson the hard way (apparently), they will not be strong enough to change either themselves or their government.
Thanks, 'Citizens United'...............PROFIT IS THE PROBLEM !!!!!
Chuck - 38% of union households voted for Walker. How do you explain that?
Hank, honestly...I'd have to say coercion. Let's face it, that's what all of the out-of-state money was for. And the fact that people just don't understand the gravity of the situation. (Hence the aforementioned failure of evolution.) See, if I have a vote, it doesn't matter how much money is up against me. If I don't sell my vote, it's more powerful than all of the money in the country.....unless I get coerced into changing it. And if I'm one of the 38%, then why would I even be in the union in the first place? You could say that many state jobs require union membership, and that's probably correct. But I still don't understand why I would vote against my own interests unless I was fooled into believing something that's not true.
Chuck - coercion, really? 38% of union households are so weak of spirit and mindt that they can be so easily coerced? How condescending of you. Elitist much?
Maybe it's rational public service union workers who feel that the unions that they belong are too powerful and crippling the state on the back of all tax payers including union tax payers. The coercion is from the unions that teachers, social workers or firemen belong to that mandate compulsory membership even if they disagree with their union and would opt out if given a choice. Oh wait, 38% of them last night did choose.
rachal looks like my uncle....except he looks younger and a bit femine
This was my last great hope for Democracy, hosed by the idiots.
Way to let Republicans stomp all over you guys.
Rachel, you have the clarity to show what a great defeat this is for the unions and the Democrats in turn. The fourteen million dollars spent will never be regained since the Public Employees are dropping from the Union rolls like flies. Obviously they voted for freedom from union dues at the same time as they were voting for Walker. The people have spoken, as the diesel buses idle back to Chicago with the party faithful those left behind should take the upper hand by being cooperative and preserving what they can eke out by kissing up to the Republicans. Who's your daddy?
right on
i love the stretch of the libs like you all here take on bullSh&%t. liberals (commies) seen for the true colors. public unions are a waste on all of our money. Private corp unions are great, but not public ones since they take our tax dollars. anyway hahhahahahhahahahahhahaha
Why do you vote against your best interest? it makes you look like a fool.... especially when people like u come to rub it it (rub what "in" im not sure). You are proving a point to us "commies" while we collectively shake our heads, chuckle to ourselves, shrug our shoulders and say to ourselves, "I guess its gonna have to get a bit worse, and then we get up the next day and move on... So I guess the question is, what have you won? and, who does "winning" help? I'd be willing to be it won't be beneficial to you, but I suppose you can dilute the truth a bit longer.
And now with those pesky unions out of the way, the private corps can start hiring and giving out decent wages and benefits...
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They can simply offer low wages with few to no benefits. After all, why hire someone at $15/hr when they'll do the work for half that, especially when there are no other jobs available.
If I were earning a modest wage in Wisconsin, I'd be scared. It's only a matter of time before you will be laid off (or fired for some 'odd' reason) and replaced by a minimum-wage new hire.
It's time to polish up your door-greeter skills.