California is getting closer to having a birther for a judge.
In the funny-names rodeo that is judicial race between Garland Peed and Gary Kreep, leading birther attorney Kreep emerged with a edge of 56 votes after the first round of vote-counting last week, with 135,000 absentee votes left to count. Kreep then fell behind by 601 votes as counting continued. The two are competing for a Superior Court judgeship in San Diego County.
Now, with 17,700 remaining, Kreep has close the gap again -- to 79 votes. With his chances looking better, Kreep found himself on local KPBS talking about his birther views and the birther lawsuit he filed. From KPBS:
If Kreep is elected, he does not think his position on these issues will affect his credibility.
"Representing clients has nothing to do with handing out justice," he said. "Judges make law every day, and judges need to be open minded."
"If I am elected, my role as a judge is to uphold the United States Constitution, then the California Constitution, then the laws of the state," he said. "My personal views really have nothing to do with how I rule on cases, I have to follow the law, that's what I'm required to do."
"My world view is based on the Bible, is based on the Constitution," he added. "If you read the Founding Fathers' documents, they based the Constitution on the Bible, you look at the Declaration of Independence, they're not talking about some esoteric thing, they're talking about God."
San Diego County updates the race every day at 5 P.M. local time, if you want to click along with us.
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"rode"?
Sand Diego ?
Fixed and fixed, and thank you, @Louisiana English Teacher and @mmm2.
The teachers of America thank you, Laura.
But... but... Sand Diego is way more accurate!
I have read through all the comments and have found myself wondering exactly how the news commentators can pronounce these guys' names with straight faces (flutters fan).
Laura, you were definitely outdone by Lawrence O'Donnell's blogsite last night...
The Vatican rewrites runs
it should've read "nuns" of course; it was posted late last night, and went uncorrected for 12 hours even though I posted a comment almost immediately.
I hope some people were embarrassed who needed to be...
OK, here goes:
Judgship Kreeps up.
Candidate Peed off.
More?
"Judges make law every day..."
Really? That'll come as something of a surprise to the Legislature, I'm sure!
My thoughts as well. Guy's in for a surprise when he finds out he doesn't get to make everybody follow his silly rules.
uh... so... there are Americans that actually believe that potential presidential candidates are VETTED by several governmental agencies?
Idiots!!!
I think he needs to reread the Founding Fathers' documents.
no you should read the bible. as he points out the Constitution is based on it.
how in the name of all that is holy did this guy get more than a handful of votes? serious, how?
I would like to know how he passed the California bar exam.
dave,
Read the bible to understand the Constitution? Shows you how much you and the judge understand the Constitution and the law. You could just as easily say that the Constitution was based on the Golden Rule.
Please tell me where in the bible there is a basis for the checks and balances system of government.
The Constitution essentially lays out who has what powers. That's in the bible somewhere? Please tell me where?
Me thinks Dogjudge doesn't understand sarcasm, I get it Dave.
Obviously he has no concept of actual history, or the secular nature of the god described in the declaration. If he would take a couple of minutes and read some of the letters, some of the treaties, some of the arguments from the founding of our nation his religious garbage would vanish and be replaced with logical conclusions brought about by thinking critically. but that is not the way of the faithful, when you are told you have to believe or else.... your ability to think for yourself is destroyed, you have to be led.
He said,
"Judges make law every day, and judges need to be open minded." What?
He does make a statement later, that sounds better , "My personal views really have nothing to do with how I rule on cases, I have to follow the law, that's what I'm required to do."
So maybe he does realize that judges don't actually make laws, just follow them and apply them to real world cases. They do set precedents.
But then he says,""If you read the Founding Fathers' documents, they based the Constitution on the Bible." No - they actually didn't (go back and review the history) and tried hard to keep religion out of the Constitution.
San Diego - best weather in California, enjoyed by the dumbest wingnuts in the country.
I grew up in San Diego and I'd say it has the best weather in the country. It is also home to the John Birch Society and a miriad of other wack a doodles.
Yeah, me too. The best thing I ever did what leave that @!$%#hole. Leaving San Diego is healthier than quitting smoking! (I did both).
KPBS is one of very few bright spots in a "Seaport Village" of conservative Jebites.
For those bible thumpers, everything is based on that. Their minds can not get past that.
You're probably right California1234, but it is a bit ironic in this thread (and your comment) that in almost every court in the U.S. you "swear to God" that you will tell the truth. :)
Except you dont have to swear to god if you dont want to in ALL courts in the U.S.
Is this a great country or what?
Elsewhere on the planet a person of this questionable mental stability would be laughed out of the room.
Here he has the opportunity to be a Judge and affect peoples lives in a dramatic fashion .
Welcome to the Asylum , now officially sanctioned as a place to be run by the inmates .
Hey it's Insane Diego, they have a nice zoo (chock full of God-creatures) and that's just the suburbs! Not a giant surprise an SD "special person" is going to be the Insane Diego Birther judge, it's just a typical Wednesday for San Diego; a trashy town that I will never miss.
He does realize that he's basically circularly-reasoned himself into a pot-hole, yes?
A) His personal views are guided by the Bible and the Constitution, which was based on the Christian god.
B) Judges create law on a daily basis.
C) His personal views have nothing to do with the rulings on his cases. He just follows "the law."
Umm... the reason Judges are elected in the first place is because you trust their discerning wisdom to measure and set precedent on the interpretation of the constitutional law.
Who actually falls for this jowl-jabbering?
Rachel would have loved this subject. By the way has anyone seen her, tell me have you seen her?..Why, oh, why.....
Please tell me that we as a society haven't sunken this low?
Frankly I'd rather be Peed on than Kreep't out....At least Peed doesn't sound this crazy.
Please tell me how Kreep actually made it thru law school - because he seems to have no idea about history, the founding fathers, or his role as a justice.....
"In the time of the locust it is given to us to see such things." M. John Harrison
"based on the Bible"
Sounds like "sharia" law to me. . .
It will be the American version by the time that lot is done with it.
Angel#77 -- I'm with you. Where is Rachel? No comment, no explanation. Not that it is necessarily any of our business...but darn it, I miss her!
I think most states have some kind of Judicial Review Board that will fire judges if they display gross incompetence. Even Alabama threw Judge Roy Moore off the bench after he violated a federal court order regarding his Ten Commandments display.
Does California have such a body? And if so, can we start a pool to guess the date when this Kreep is chucked off the bench?
"As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion ...
The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan nation."
Treaty of Tripoli: unanimously passed by the US Senate in 1797 which I understand may have had a few Founding Fathers serving on it...
Maybe it's the 13 year old mentality in me, but Kreep and Peed... sounds like comedy gold.
maphi, the Founding Fathers were Free Masons. The city of Washington was designed by a french Free Mason called Pierre L'Enfant and the Statue of Liberty was a gift from the French Free Masons to celebrate the first 100 years of the world's first Masonic Republic, namely America.
You are right, the Bible never entered into it.
I'm sure he is referencing a pretty generic 'Creator' line in The Declaration of Independance, but how does does he deal with the 'establish no religion' the founders wrote about? Um ... unless I missed it in my readings, I don't see a 10 Commandments, Christ, Moses, Mohammad, etc. reference in any of the Founding Fathers 'official' documents either.
The only reason I can come up with for this is that I think a whole bunch of know-nothing (or worse) people thought it would be "cute" to have a "Judge Kreep." (And, he really is a creep.)
UGH! I think I'm gonna be ill........I happen to have the fortune (but in this case, misfortune) of actually LIVING in San Diego, and the fact that this wingnut is THIS CLOSE to becoming a judge in this county is.......well, it's beyond humiliating. This is a guy who the San Diego County Bar Association rated as "unfit" to serve as a judge prior to the election. But sadly, that's just the kind of right wing whackjobs we have here in America's Finest City. See: DeMaio, Carl, candiate for Mayor.
This is just how ignorant our electorate is, and this is what happens when only 35% of registered voters actually show up to the polls.
If Gary Kreep wins, then I've lost all hope for San Diego. Not even a Bob Filner win in November in the mayoral race would make up for it. But this is, after all, the home of Darrell Issa, so we probably shouldn't be all that surprised.
I hate to say it, but we deserve what we get if Kreep and DeMaio (who wants to privatize government......almost literally) get elected.
I almost voted for this guy becuause the ballot said "Constitutional Law Professor", and I made the assumption that he was probably liberal. I decided to google Kreep (appropriate surname) and was shocked that someone so politically extreme was running for a supposedly impartial position like Superior Court Judge. I have friends who didn't check him out and actually voted for this tea partying birther. The San Diego Union Tribune reported that the county bar association rated him, "lacking in qualifications". Scarry that he could still win this thing.
""My world view is based on the Bible, is based on the Constitution," he added. "If you read the Founding Fathers' documents, they based the Constitution on the Bible, you look at the Declaration of Independence, they're not talking about some esoteric thing, they're talking about God."
how nice to see even more lies from Kreep. It's such a shame that a "good Christian" must rely on such nonsense. If the Constitution is based on the bible, why does it directly contradict this bible time and time again? It seems that Kreep has no idea what is in his bible or what is in the Constitution. Good ol' willful ignorance, all idiots like this have.
Just what we don't need, a bat@!$%# crazy judge. I hope all his decisions are challenged. He works for the people, not vice versa...