
Seen by Sarah Goodyear at a Starbucks in New Haven, Connecticut.

Seen by Sarah Goodyear at a Starbucks in New Haven, Connecticut.
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Applying 27 times for one job is now considered a great thing?
Reminds me of Bush telling a woman who said she had 3 jobs that she was a "great American".
Weird......
You're missing the point. Applying 27 times for the job kinda disputes the assertion that the 99% are "lazy and unmotivated", as we are so often characterized.
I don't think bootypop is missing the point. I think he/she is saying it's absurd that anyone considers it a good thing that it took 27 times applying to get a job as a barista. One application per job opening should suffice.
Susan... I think you're missing the point. We do whatever it takes to get a job... 1 application at 100 places, or 100 applications at 1000 places... You have to work hard in today's economy just to get an opportunity to prove how hard you're willing to work.
You obviously don't think much of Baristas... why? It's a job... As Dave said... there's a ridiculous misconception that unemployed people are't "trying hard enough"... or that they expect too much or aren't willing to work hard... This is BS.
dave63 see's it for what it is! Zach wanted a job so much that he did not give up! He continued to let the employer (in this case Starbucks) know that he wouldn't quit. With so many people looking for jobs it stands to reason that companies are going to be looking for the best possible people to fill the limited openings that are available to fill.
Now I know you dark and gloomy nay saying I can't believe he applied 27 time jokers are thinking "If he applied 27 times, why didn't he get hired before?" It is simple, there are a lot of really good people out there looking for work with few jobs to be had.
The cool part of this image shared with us on Rachel's blog is that Starbucks and its Customers reaping the benefits of Zach's tenacity, drive and obvious love of the job he was hired to do. Zach is the type of person that will help turn this country around, having that all American don't quit attitude that we should all be known for, don't you think?
I don't know why you inferred that I don't think much of baristas, but you were incorrect to do so. I do not, however, think much of an economy where you have to apply for the same job 27 times before you get it, especially a job that is relatively low-paying in the first place. This has nothing to do with the type of job or even the company (Starbucks, which I do not happen to like, but that's because the coffee is expensive and mediocre).
I was out of a job for nearly 3 years, although I took appropriate part time work when it was available. I went to law school and as a result am in debt the size of a house. I went to law school under what was, when I entered in 2003, the assumption that a lawyer could reliably earn a salary that would pay off law school debts. This was a gross error. Blame me, blame the economy, blame the law school culture; I don't care. The point is the unemployment and the debt I have been unable to pay.
I was taught not to apply for the same job more than twice in a year. I was told by multiple "authorities" on job hunting that this looked desperate and that employers do not like desperate job-hunters. (In fact, statistics show that employers prefer job-hunters who already have jobs, and that they discriminate against people who are unemployed, but that's mostly a separate issue.) So unless this dude applied for this job 27 times over the course of about 13 years, he broke the rules of job-hunting I was taught. If the rules have changed, please tell me now so I can apply for my next desired job 27 times without irritating management (27 applications from the same person would annoy the hell out of me as a manager, but hey, I'm hardly a manager here in the pseudo-legal job I finally got).
I think you all got the point, it's great that Zach is determined and didn't give up, and it's also awful that he had to apply 27 freaking times before he could get a relatively LOW paying and often unappreciated job.
Who said it was great? It kind of sucks, which I think is the point. Maybe applying 2 or 3 times at most, but this is indicative of what is happening. I have 6-7 companies that always have job listings that I have applied to several times, up to a dozen, but have never received any response. And I am more than qualified for each listed position. . .
In 1976, I applied 57 times to work for Miller Brewing Company,Milwaukee,,at that time you actually filled out an application in ........14 months later I was called for my interview......36 yrs later I retired from the company..incredible pension, and great health care...the squeeky wheel gets the grease..........
Applying 27 times for a minimum wage job. This really exemplifies the dire job market in the US. Where are the jobs, Mr. Boehner?
They're hidden in women's va-jay-jays, thus his obsession with regulating them. Gotta git up in thur and find the jobs!
OMG Jeff!!! LOL
I think this is more about persistance to land the gig the guy wanted, which is commendable in a @!$%#ty economy.
Fighting hard for the privilege of being the 98%.
coffee master certification? Wow. That should kick start his career. :(
Have to respect his perseverance, he really wanted to work there.
If my experience is anything to go by, it's more indicative of the numbers of people that are competing for the same jobs.
I have to admire his perseverance, too. He really wanted to EAT and PAY HIS RENT.
I wouldn't be too quick to blame it all on Mr. Boehner, though. As I recall, upon being elected President in the wake of the worst recession in 80 years, Mr. Obama set right to work on the country's top priorities: equal pay for women (those who still HAD jobs), and (really, let's call it was it is) health insurance reform. Let's not overlook the fact that the Dems controlled the House, the Senate and the White House for the first two years of the Obama presidency. While Obama's efforts to stave off economic collapse are laudable, it was too little and (in the case of "job creation") too late. Had Team Obama-Pelossi made job creation "job one" from Day 1, there might be a damn sight fewer Tea Baggers in office today.
Repeating the lie of "two years of control" doesn't help your cause.
So, it's a lie, now? They DIDN'T really control it all for 2 years!? I think denying the facts doesn't help the libs' cause. It just makes them as pathetic as the Repugs. The first step to correcting a mistake is admitting you've made one.
Not actually, no. With the long, drawn out recount process for Al Franken's senate seat and considering the length of time that Sen. Kennedy was in health, our super-majority in the senate was only a few months long. And the republicans REQUIRED that we have a super-majority in order to pass anything... Think about it.
Dave... you're wrong. The President's job isn't to fix "a" problem... He's been trying to address as many as possible. Ultimately he also doesn't hire people... there are lots of problems right now... most are cultural... YOU are as big a part of the problem as the rest of us. And as big a part of the solution as you feel the President aught to be.
I seem to recall a lot of legislative obstruction on the part of the minority party, constantly shifting position, etc.. To be honest the major mistake made by the President and the Democrats was trying to work with the Republicans!
Sorry, davefromberkley, but if you're completely honest with yourself, you'll acknowledge that having a majority in the Senate today means 60 votes, not 51. So, no, the Ds did NOT "control it all" for two years.
Nice try, though.
Dave obviously- being a RepubliCAN'T,- does not know that you cannot herd cats or Democrats. Especially the blue ones. . .
This graph showing use of the filibuster is a bit long in the tooth:
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/02/10/3878726-graph-filibuster-out-o-control?lite
but this one from another site includes last year's numbers as well.
http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2012/02/a-teachable-moment-republicans-were-right/
There have been quite a few famous filibusters by the Democratic members of the Senate over many years. Your graph links projects comparison to numbers of filibusters, but attached is some highlights of some of the more famous filibusters subjects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_in_the_United_States_Senate
You people are also forgetting the fact the the dems had to deal with the conservadems , who also would not let jack pass , that and rightfully so , imo , the dems in the house required everything to be paid for , unfortunately our brave moderate voters do not appreiciate honesty and responsibility , because they turning around and voted gop
What we need is to reindustrialize -- if instead of a 500 billion dollar trade deficit we had a 500 billion dollar trade surplus there would be jobs EVERYWHERE
If only there were someone out there wanting to buy all the stuff you're proposing to manufacture.
If only there were someone out there
wantingwho can afford to buy all the stuff you're proposing to manufacture.Fixed it for you.
If I had known I was supposed to apply to every job I wanted 27 times, I might have gotten a job sooner. I was under the impression once was enough. :-/
I wonder if those law firms actually wanted to hear from me 27 times....
You got THAT right! My understanding of the word 'insanity' always included "doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different outcome."
two years of unemployment before i found a job. 27 applications at star bucks? how many job applications in total? what a great example of the american spirit. bust your butt and maybe get a minimum wage job...
The future "partner of the quarter" being denied a job 26 times shows that the manager of that Starbucks is a poor judge of job applicants.
it's not just THAT Starbucks. I applied a number of times myself with Starbucks and I am still out of work.
That's circular logic, since he's only 'Partner of the Quarter' because he was denied a job 26 times.
If he's so great why did it take 27 interviews for Starbucks to figure that out and give this guy a job. And should a guy with so much ambition settle fora job at Starbucks?!?
That presumes he got 27 interviews. Chances are, his application didn't even get looked at the first 26 times.
Too many unemployed people historically results in serious bad times. Just ask the French circa 1890. Not advocating it, just being observant.
So... if Starbucks passed up this "leader" 26 times before hiring him, what other brilliant judgement have they exhibited in selecting leadership?
Zach knows how to tweek his employer. Kudos to you, Zach!
Don't knock it.
Persistence can be a valuable trait in a job interview.
All of us started at some sort of bottom, somewhere.
You bet we did. Sadly, it's the same 'bottom' I find myself back at some 40 years later. Pffff....."American Dream", my sweet patootie!
Depends on how you look at it.
Your dream is what you make it.
I make less than 40K a year, but, I have a house, a spouse, a car, two dogs and a cat.
I'm comfortable.
40K is enough for a house and a car in some markets, especially if you have a spouse who also works and contributes to the income of the family.
40K is not enough to buy a house in most of the East Coast markets, and if you have student loan debt, you may never own a house. (I'm okay with not owning a house, though, after what I've seen some of my friends go through in recent years - yikes!)
I'm definitely not going to knock the guy for working at Starbucks. It just sucks that he had to apply 27 times to try and get a job anywhere. :(
I've also applied numerous times for a job at Starbucks (And also W Hotel as well) to no avail. I am still out of work.
Starbucks offers benefits including dental to full time employees. I would say that his perseverance was worth it.
It is the online application process, Zach most likely never even saw a person who could hire him until #27.
Ok so I dont think this has anything to do with the economy. when you run a store you only have so many spots open. I ran a store for 16 years and had a staff that was happy which led to low turn over which meant I could only hire new people during christmas or back to school time. I dont know where this star bucks is but if its a community that does not have a very busy starbucks then it maybe that he applied so many times before there was actually an opening in the store.
I had a job with the company in question for a few months and like most things it's a" who yah know" kind of thing.
While working there i witnessed terrible treatment by staff,but to tell you the truth the customers were worse. I live in the Coachella valley, and there is a high concentration of republican wealth.
In any case, I was fired due to my till being short collectively over a period of a month to the tune of about 65 dollars. Although the money went missing a month before hand and the excuse to why I had not heard about it was " I was hoping it would come up". So the next day I put all of my tips into the draw, I'm panicking, i don't want to be fired! the next day i wake up with a check, perplexed i call my boss, she tell me to come down, so i do.I'm fired.12.47$ was missing. I've heard of overnight mail but their is no literal such thing
So I call the company and stress the wrongdoings done to me, but more so the sanitary issues i had to deal with,and because I did the customers didn't. Out of the 7-10 business days they call me back 13 days later.They call me back trying to give me eleven dollars for gas millage.
Now i'm jobless. And i guess it doesn't help that i refused the 11$ haha. -nich
OF course it has something to do with the economy. If the economy were better there would be less applicants to choose from. Economics 101..,You seriously think it has nothing to do with the economy? I feel sorry for the store you ran.
Starbucks has great benefits, everybody get health insurance. That might be the reason he wanted the job so badly.
Very, very sad statement on America today. But the few working people of this time deserve our admiration for their willingness to believe that work was the answer, as opposed to theft, drugs, or suicide. In the end, I credit Zach for his willingness to believe enough to apply, and again, and again.
Soon, the workers of America must be able to reap better rewards than since the Bush2 years.
Let's all just apply to every job nearly 30 times from now on and see what happens. Is this like a drawing? Put in more to up your chances?