Where the whole "real rape can't get you pregnant" idea comes from (including the phrase "secretes a certain secretion").
Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom says Romney could balance the budget by 2020.
Ohio Republican doubles down on his jab at the African-American voter-turnout "machine."
Ron Paul plans to spend big on a party at the RNC, while Newt Gingrich will lead workshops and birther Donald Trump will play a "surprise" role.
How Rep. Eric Cantor got mad at a GOP delegation to Israel after he found out about the late-night skinny dipping.
The Illinois House votes to expel a member.
Diana Nyad tries again to swim from Cuba to the US without a shark cage.
Living life on Mars time.
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Oh, I'm certain that this carried some great religious significance. It's a shame that we now have confirmed Republicans cannot walk on water. Or were they perhaps fishing for votes? And I'm shocked at the suggestion that alcohol could have played any part in this. [Sorry, I can't say this and keep a straight face.]
LMAO!!! Great analogy Denise! This story should be all over the news!!!!!!
Hey ladies we don't need birth control anymore! We can just shut it down or something! Oh wit, that is only in the case of forcible rape! If it is just regular, routine rape, we are SOL!
Man oh man, this situation is ludicrous. Are there seriously males, not just politicians and policy makers, that believe this? I'm... just flabbergasted...
Well, I'm hoping there's a Daily Show follow up to this. I could use the laughs...
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-2-2011/rape-victim-abortion-funding
Legitimate rape.
I keep thinking of the phase 'legitimate theater' but am resisting the urge to make any jokes, because there's nothing funny about it. I suppose the 'legitimate' comes into the picture because it seems a common notion on the right that most claims of rape are false.
A hopeful development here in Michigan:
http://www.freep.com/article/20120820/NEWS01/308200034/Revealed-records-raise-new-questions-Republican-scandal-in-state-House?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE
Re: The "rape can't get you pregnant" thing. So, following the "logic" here: if you are "legitimately raped", you won't get pregnant, because your body will spontaneously abort the fetus. Therefore, any woman who is pregnant and who claims she was raped must be lying about being raped, right?
Is that actually what they are trying to say, or do I need to not check this page until AFTER I have had my coffee?
She can't get pregnant during rape because her female parts fight that. I think they were trying to say in case of rape, women emit a spermicide and therefore can't get pregnant by a rape. The radical know nothing men should never be allowed to make laws regulating birth control, abortion or anything else like cancer screenings. This goes to show how ignorant they really are. Any woman voting Republican needs to understand these men are not capable in the least of determining medical decisions. They need to be escorted out of the country on a raft or something.
This is the product of degrees in engineering and theology wrapped in warped misogyny. Females homo sapiens can determine legitimate sperm cells from the illegitimate. Where is MIT, Johns Hopkins, and Mayo on this?!
the republicans are soon to announce a new method of birth control. it's natural and free. all women will be trained to prevent pregnancy with the new secretus no fetus method. all they have to do is pretend that all intercourse is rape and, voila, no kid!
Bringing rape into the abortion discussion is obscene. Abortion is a procedure for a woman and her doctor to decide. That has been my opinion for 30+ years and I turn 45 in September. No argument from the other side will trump what a woman decides after she consults her doctor when she learns she's pregnant. You can quote me on that. I'll tell Saint Peter the same thing at the Pearly Gates.
I'll be 70 in November and I believe the same thing! These guys should have to come back and do at least one life as a woman.
Reincarnation would explain how there are women like Michelle Bachmann or Jan Brewer. But if it does, I don't think they're learning anything by the experience.
IS THERE A SILVER LINING IN THIS? On the one hand, the no-pregnancy-from-rape lie is an example of how ideological zealots, like the forced birth hoard, invent facts that they need to maintain their delusions. Neocons and other right wing nuts invented "death panels" so they could rail against the President without revealing their racism and ideological extremism. ON THE OTHER HAND, the invention of the no-pregnancy lie suggests that the forced birth hoard recognizes how loathsome their "no exceptions for rape or incest" dogma really is.
PREISSE isn't the first one to inadvertently admit what restricting voting hours and ID laws are all about. If he walked his initial comments back, it would be a full confession, so he had to double down. QUESTION: How much would expanded hours for voting really cost? Even if it were a lot, wouldn't it be worth it to preserve the core right of citizens in a democracy?
So some people actually believe a woman's vagina has a magical sperm-repellent function built into it now? Christ sake, someone forcibly enrol these people in a basic anatomy or sex education class. They desperately need it.
Perhaps some enterprising NBC reporters could go interview some confessed rapists who impregnated their victims. It would help educate the ignorant.
Nothing can help educate the ignorant. I never noticed before just how many well educated ignorant people there are here in KS. I am surrounded by them.
Well, you and I have learned something at some point, haven't we? (I'm sure I didn't type nearly so well when I was born.)
And having actual rapists report would fight the whole "was it really rape?" sneer than any victim's testimony might inspire from the ignoroids.
Am I missing something? What's the big deal about the swimming in the sea of gallilee thing? is that illegal in israel for some reason?
At least when the Gorka clone shouts "Kiss my a**, this is a holy site", it's more convenient if he's already buck nekkid.
'Voter turnout machine'? Yeah, so now they're openly saying it: not voting Republican is the real voter fraud.
Sometimes I rue the passing of an 'America' that other times I am well aware never existed. What did exist was a (one of) culture/religion that used polygamy in their war on women. That polygamy would still more strongly exist if it were not for the fact that has been more reliable than any other and more reliable than religion certainly in defending women from the wars against them. That factor is the system of law, the common law of the US.
In the current war, the walls of the common law fort are crumbling.
When I first read Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood, I saw the religious antagonist as Christian fundamentalism. I failed to see it as Mormonism. Now I see it as both.
In researching my novel, Nine Elevens, I follow a trail of occurrences of the date, 9/11 back to the land of Maya in the year 911. One of the puzzles is the significance of what is missing when you say nine eleven.
In the several civilizations where the novel's action takes place I was driven to give birth to strong, resourceful, goal driven women whom I needed as missionaries of reason. My chief desire in this season is that those strong female characters inpire the readers of Nine Elevens to fight as women have never fought before to recover their freedom from the ogres of state and federal government.
We must all save the law to save ourselves.
I wish the women of the US the strengthened qualities of the characters in my novel.
"Nolite te bastardes carborundorum!" I repeat Atwood's words as I stand with the characters of Atwood's Handmaid's Tale and my own Nine Elevens.
I love that the GOP is falling flat on their face...
"Yes, Virginia, You Can Get Pregnant From Being Raped" http://nursingclio.wordpress.com/2012/08/20/yes-virginia-you-can-get-pregnant-from-being-raped/
Took a bit of doing, and I unearthed a LOT, but I'm pretty sure I found Freind's friend, Dr. Fred E. Mecklenburg, a 77 year-old board certified Gynecologist and Obstetrician practicing in Fairfax, VA.
Here's a link to his "heathgrades" report. His patients seem happy with him. http://www.healthgrades.com/physician/dr-fred-mecklenburg-xvtt9
After some more hunting I found him listed on the brief for "Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life" in this Supreme Court case on abortion.
http://books.google.com/books/about/State_of_Minnesota_in_Supreme_Court.html?id=rE1mHQAACAAJ
Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life has a PAC, and they're VERY politically active.
On their main page, they promote the same old stories about the PPACA. For example, the familiar phrase "End of Medicare as we know it" is included as a topic head for a bullet point list of hot links leading to outside articles, all of which are designed to skew information about PPACA.
This is their opening paragraph on Planned Parenthood (from a pulldown menu located at the top of the main page):
"Planned Parenthood works hard to position itself as a health care provider helping women and couples to plan their families. Behind that facade is the real Planned Parenthood, whose true mission is to prevent the births of children, especially "certain" children, holding true to the model of founder Margaret Sanger, a racist and eugenicist."
Seriously. These guys are harsh.
http://www.mccl.org/
After doing yet MORE digging, I found out that MCCL also decided to step in and assist with aggressively enforcing Citizen's United in Minnesota (because corporations are babies, too, and MCCL is "nonsectarian" and "nonpartisan"). They were one of two advocacy groups that argued against a law passed in Minnesota in 2010. It requires that disclosure reports be filed about corporate campaign contributions through action committees, not directly to the candidates. This was done to provide campaign transparency, while meeting CU requirements and allowing unrestricted campaign spending by corporations. The argument made against it was that it broke 1st Amendment rights for corporations. In September 2011, an appeals court heard the case en band, but as of July, the law still holds - and that's a good thing.
http://www.startribune.com/local/160326235.html?refer=y
Here's why it's a good thing:
As posted on July 18, 2012, UpTake Video announced that the Campaign Finance and Disclosure Board had discovered the MN GOP had possibly broken the law that's currently under review. (They already fined former Minnesota Republican Party Chair Tony Sutton $3,000 for his part in this.) They discovered emails discussing the set-up of a non-profit corporation to funnel campaign funds through. Those funds were being used in a redistricting court fight, and it's the same trick they used to fund the 2010 Gubernatorial Recount. With the new law in place, as a felony, fines of $20,000 and a five-year jail sentence can be applied if proven.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8mNSU7y13Y
Fascinating and excellent (and somewhat terrifying) research Christine, thanks! In some slight defense of my fellow Pennsyltuckians, we at least had the good sense to toss that knucklehead Freind out of professional politics when he vied against Arlen Specter in a Rape-Public-CON Senatorial primary in the early '90s.
Sadly, you still have a Freind in PA (so to speak) - he remains active in the anti-choice movement (I saw him quoted extensively in an article about an upcoming protest march about a year and a half ago).
;-(
Thanks :) Since I always wonder about the doctors that people refer to as having given them such "sage" advice, I think it's worth following up on them and their connections. (Also, sometimes the results of my searches are truly surprising.)
Glad to hear that progression still marches on in your neck of the woods - against whatever opposition they may throw at it. ;D
The idea that a woman can stop a pregnancy by some magical secretion, just proves how ignorant some people are about the functions of a woman's body. Stupid and these are the people who want to control a woman's reproductive life. VOTE OBAMA!
So ... if a woman turns on the magic chemical process and self aborts a fertilized zygote after a 'forced rape' she must be guilty of murder if you follow the thinking process here.
Even if you agree with the Rep/Tea-publican fiscal views, people have to then accept the rest of the wacko right wing nonsense that comes with them. Scary times ahead if they actually get voted in.
Please put this on ur show and comment Rachel........https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=457692570928677&set=a.412455585452376.97064.174612345903369&type=1&ref=nf
Why? What do you expect her to say? Do you want viewers to make up bubble captions for the picture? "Who could imagine that this beautiful man would say such hateful things 25 years later about his female Democratic opponent?"
Wow, this is really out there. Ladies, if you don't want to get pregnant, activate your cervix to secrete and shut that down? WTF?
This is outrageous, but why are we surprised? They are truly trying to go back to male domination of females.
They are going to say "Go Back" at the convention. "Go back" to women are unable to own property without a man.