We talked earlier about Mitt Romney's convention speech and its shortcomings, but I'd be remiss if I neglected to mention this 39-second portion that was genuinely painful.
For those who can't watch clips online, Romney said, "President Obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans and to heal the planet. My promise is to help you and your family."
That's great news for those of us who don't have families on this planet.
Now, as a factual matter, Romney's promise is itself rather strange. How "you and your family" will benefit from less access to affordable health care, less access to education, and fewer investments in roads and infrastructure is something of a mystery.
But even putting that aside, the aspect of Romney's comments that was simply astounding was the ignorance. The Republican treated rising sea levels as a punch-line, as if the very idea of addressing the climate crisis is ridiculous and those who take this seriously are fools worthy of mockery.
Indeed, the Republican audience took their cues, literally laughing at Obama's efforts to address global warming.
Also notice that, in Romney's mind, there's a distinction -- the nation can deal with the climate crisis or we can help families, as if the two have nothing to do with one another.
When people in the future look back at Romney's contempt for the idea of "slowing the rise of the oceans," and his party's willingness to bury their hands in the sand, history will not be kind.
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But even putting that aside, the aspect of Romney's comments that was simply astounding was the ignorance. The Republican treated rising sea levels as a punch-line, as if the very idea of addressing the climate crisis is ridiculous and those who take this seriously are fools worthy of mockery.
Simple answers to simple questions: all "you people" will be much better serfs that way.
The even more astounding aspect is that a lot of these clowns live in Florida and other low lying areas of the southeast. They will be the first ones whose homes will truly be "underwater."
And they will blame "haynus libruls" when that happens.
It's a joke about the boasting of a person about what he can control, and given the complexity of the climate, and his utter lack of control over the economy, we know he can not do either.
On the other hand the seas are not rising at the alarming rate predicted, nor at a pace that is catastrophic. From Dr Mörner in an article in the UK Telegraph (not your activist blogs) "Despite fluctuations down as well as up, "the sea is not rising," he says. "It hasn't risen in 50 years." If there is any rise this century it will "not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm". And quite apart from examining the hard evidence, he says, the elementary laws of physics (latent heat needed to melt ice) tell us that the apocalypse conjured up by Al Gore and Co could not possibly come about.
The reason why Dr Mörner, formerly a Stockholm professor, is so certain that these claims about sea level rise are 100 per cent wrong is that they are all based on computer model predictions, whereas his findings are based on "going into the field to observe what is actually happening in the real world".
So the claims are a joke after all.
Your single former professor from Stockholm is simply wrong.
"Sea levels around the world are rising. Global average sea level rose at an average rate of around 1.7 ± 0.3 mm per year from 1950 to 2009 and at a satellite-measured average rate of about 3.3 ± 0.4 mm per year from 1993 to 2009, an increase on earlier estimates."
These measurements are not from models as you say, but actually taken from the field using the most modern and accurate methods possible.
Further, Dr. Mörner's work is highly suspect and he is considered an outlier by everyone in the scientific field.
"Mörner's claim that sea levels are not rising has been criticised for ignoring correctly calibrated satellite altimeter records, all of which show that sea levels are rising.
Views on dowsing
Mörner has written a number of works claiming to provide theoretical support for dowsing. He was elected "Deceiver of the year" by Föreningen Vetenskap och Folkbildning in 1995 for "organizing university courses about dowsing...". In 1997 James Randi asked him to claim The One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge, making a controlled experiment to prove that dowsing works. Mörner declined the offer."
In the 'real' scientific world 'Dr' Mörner is known as sort of a joke. Although perhaps The Romney/Ryan ticket could use him as a junk science surrogate, since he was a 'Deceiver of the Year.'
Now a real 'joke' would be someone trolling on a blog where folks are smart enough to do their own research and come to their own conclusions without relying on former scientists with questionable results from experimentation that can not be replicated. He failed in his peer review and so do you. Peddle your snake oil elsewhere.
Rising oceans may not be funny but the article and some of the comments are because they missed the point of Romney's comment. Anyone who has gone to the seashore for a few decades knows the oceans are rising. It's is a problem, but not a problem for which there is any known manmade solution. In fact no one knows for sure what is causing the problem. More than likely it is simply long term weather cycles.
Romney's statement simply meant our priorities should be on fixing the problems we can actually fix rather than throwing good money after bad on something we don't know how to fix. The author shouldn't be allowed to write articles if he doesn't understand things like metaphors, analogies, and symbolism.
To be sure, there are very few 'slam dunks' in science. Of the very few times you can state things with near certainty is when you discover a 'one to one' direct relationship.
This is what has happened in the scientific community. Separate fields of study, like toxicologists, geologists, climatologists, ecologists, and chemists have done studies on our recent history going back hundreds of years; long term history with ice cores from the Vostok glaciers going back hundreds of thousands of years; and now with ancient microscopic sea shells in benthic samples drilled from the ocean floor that go back HUNDREDS of millions of years. Each of these scientific studies have, independently, come back to a near perfect one to one relationship betwixt carbon dioxide levels and mean global temperatures. The science has been peer reviewed and the results have been replicated.
This is as close to a slam dunk as things get in the scientific world. Once the models that have been developed are adjusted for things like solar flares, sunspots and Milankovitch Cycles the answer for what we are now experiencing still comes back to global increases in carbon dioxide levels.
As with most things, there are a suite of factors to consider.
Carbon dioxide is not the only greenhouse gas. Water vapor is the greenhouse gas that has the biggest impact on our global climate. Methane gas is also another major player in this.
What we in the scientific community (that have actually studied this stuff) are saying is that the two major gasses that humans have some control over in our atmosphere are carbon dioxide and methane and by controlling these two we can exert SOME control over the third, water. (Cooler air holds less moisture)
Climate change is not just about warming. If you add more energy to a closed system it will express itself in powerful and chaotic ways. The laws of thermodynamics and entropy say that this increased energy held by our atmosphere must find a way to its lowest and least 'organized' form. What that means for us is storms, really big storms, (yes even winter storms), floods, rains like we have never seen, freak hailstorms with three feet of hail, and in between the storms we can expect heat and drought. . . biblical stuff.
What is in it for you if we control carbon emissions?
Less severity in storms and droughts for starters. We are not saying you have to quit using gas, coal natural gas now. What we are promoting is gearing every nation towards geothermal, wind, solar power sources gradually and incrementally.
Economically, this does not have to mean ruin. Wind, solar and geothermal power sources need folks to manufacture the apparatus to gather the resource and folks to maintain the equipment. How many folks in YOUR community are employed in the oil industry right now? None? Very very few Americans earn a living from oil. We will still need vehicles and therefore still need tires and lubricants so many of the jobs Americans imagine have to do with oil (but are actually more transportation) will still be there. The plastics industry will be as big as ever.
I think the biggest problem with the whole idea of global warming comes down to change. Folks hate change and fear it. Now they get a taste of what might be unless we do something. I have kids. I fear for them if we do not change. .
A man made solution would be curtailing man made carbon pollution. You have to remember that the Republicans are indebted to the oil guys so deeply they can only see sludge. It's not just rising sea levels, it's chaotic weather, oil wars, droughts that result in starvation and revolutions plus extinction of species. Intentional ignorance only contributes to suffering. Your comment that no one knows for sure...is outdated. Climate change is agreed upon and so are its causes.
Mabye it is because we have a better handle on the science than you do....
I think willard is up to his neck in it. Of course tomorrow he will say he didn't say that or we mis-understood what he meant by it. You know how willard is.
I will just let Billl Nye the Science guy speak for me about the Republican Party and science: http://pinterest.com/pin/56154326574787423/?timeline=1&fb_action_ids=465278676826363&fb_action_types=pinterestapp%3Apin&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=10151052373147165
Is Bill Nye a real scientist? What diploma mill did he graduate from, with what degree. He takes simple science and makes it more simple for kids to understand. I don't think that qualifies him as a credible scientific theorist.
Bill has a Bachelors of Science from Cornell, 1977, and has been an active scientist and researcher since he graduated. Cornell is consistently in the top ten science schools in the nation. One of his professors was Carl Sagan. He has also been awarded two honorary PhD Degrees for his work in science.
The facts that Bill Nye espouses are simply that. Facts.
@Transcript, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nye for some basic info on Bill Nye. In case you are not aware, we have a STEM crisis in this country. You do the Google search on the STEM acronym. Fact: among the 34 OECD countries, the United States now ranks 25th in Math and 17th in Science. We are getting our ass handed to us in the STEM fields that we have traditionally dominated. That is simply inexcusable and more than ever we need people like Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson to fire kids up about Math, Science, Computing, and Engineering. Yeah, Nye may "only" have the Bachelors in Mech Engr., compared to Tyson's PhD in Astropyhsics, but he is no slouch. So please get your facts straight first, then speak what's on your mind.
Who lives on the US coasts? Liberals, that's who! Removing those moochers with their educated superior fact-based attitudes will certainly improve things for your family, at least if the major dynamic in your family is resentment. And the people around the world who live on coasts or islands - they're mostly brown and certainly not Americans. They should just move to their weekend places in the mountains.
I certainly hope that is supposed to be sarcasm, otherwise, your comment is just another Republi@!$%# troll. You think all those folks in MS, AL, LA, TX, FL, GA who have suffered through several horrendous hurricanes and floods deserve the same? Many of us Liberals would love to see Jesusland wiped off the map.
Ya know, sometimes it can be hard to tell, and Dog knows I've had my share of snarkfail episodes. But this would not be one of them.
The reason I'm pretty sure it's snark/sarcasm is because greennotGreen used proper grammar, sentence structure and spelling.
The trolls usually don't/can't do the same.
greennotgreen has to be snark. Even shooter or Irishpat couldn't hit that many GOP talking points...lol
Apparently the ASCI code for the snark icon didn't work when I typed my comment. Sorry for the confusion. I would have thought that assuming coastal peoples of the world all had weekend places in the mountains would have been a clue.
The reason Republicans laughed about that is because they don't believe the oceans are rising. The left has lied so loudly and so often about climate the right doesn't care about it anymore. I understand global warming is regarded fondly in Minnesota. Heh.
More fact-free devil-take-the-hindmost callousness from the Randie. He probably thinks it will all happen after he dies, and so doesn't give a damn about the people whose lives will be ruined or who will die because of the malicious pigheadedness of those on the right.
green wasn't being snarky; he was serious. That's the kind of garbage that is driving the Republicans. It's not only obnoxious, it's pretty scary that these people will be in charge in 2013.
Uh, no. Definitely snark. Reading comprehension, people!
You need to provide more hints for us poor souls that have had to deal with the real wingnut phenomenon up close and personal, green. It's very difficult to get so far out there away from sanity that you've left the ridiculous insanity that is wingnuttery. These people are kooks. Sorry for not catching the snark.
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"It's like these guys take pride in being ignorant" -- Barack Obama, 8/5/2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7STM9Zn7ilY
Same as it ever was.
Thanks for reminding us of that. Obama's pithy (and sadly, too, too true) comment comes to my mind more and more often these days.
A classic example is by The Blank above.
Brains made of teflon, nothing sticks.
Why is no one commenting on Rubio's misreading his big build-up line introducing Romney where he said: (We can tell future generations that...) "we voted for more GOVERNMENT, not more FREEDOM!" That was a major, major goof...on the same level as the embarassing fumbling by Clint Eastwood...but not a word.
I caught that Freudian slip too! Also, during Ann Romney's speech, she said her husband has been "sexful" at everything he's done. That one was funny!
Because some of us, mostly Republicans apparently, are forgiving. Anyone who dwells on an obvious mistake, knowing full well what the intent was, is just showing how stupid, arrogant, and unforgiving they are.
The idea that anyone on the right is actually "forgiving" is mindbogglingly false. But then, those on the right are routinely egomaniacs.
I've been saying this for awhile.Republican's alway's use the talking point,we do'nt want to leave our grandchildren and great grandchildren with a huge debt.I do'nt want that either.But I do'nt want to leave them a dead or dying planet,like they do.
We human beings could actually multi-task and work on both the debt and climate change. Maybe even make positive effects.
One thing is sure, Mitt Romney won't be working on anything he doesn't personally feel is worth any effort.
"...anything that doesn't personally feel is worth any effort."
And doesn't put more money in HIS pocket.
just FYI: you don't have to put an apostrophe in front of every s, you know.
"Republican's alway's use the talking point..."
dear lord!
Not Long Ago…in a convention not far enough away—
--a certain high plains drifter dropped by and began yelling at an empty chair. But that Empty Chair was actually the perfect symbol for the Republican Party. After their war in Iraq, there are now LOTS of chairs in American households that are equally vacant—not to mention those empty seats left in Aurora, Littleton and Columbine.
That Empty Chair on stage held all the jobs created by Bain-era corporate raiders, off-shorers and “right” sizers.
That Empty Chair held the number of women that Republicans want to be in charge of their own bodies and the number of regulators that Republicans want to be in charge of clean energy, clean air, or in corporate oversight committees.
Maybe that is why a dullard like Romney is so popular with the GOP now. It is not so much that the GOP wants an empty suit as that Empty Chair…which is--after all—the seat of Government they so despise. They want to run for the seat just to keep it vacant—and ineffective.
There is nothing more hypocritical than men who would tell the voter “Hi, I’m a libertarian/conservative, I don’t believe in government, so vote for me, and I promise to do absolutely nothing for you at all.”
If they don’t even believe in their own job, then they shouldn’t be running, or driving, for that matter, on single payer highways to their lilly-white suburbs. Where the GOP says “we did it” Democrats say “you did it America!”
The Republican insistence upon keeping the seat of government empty makes them the political equivalent of “professional” wrestling referees on the take from the evil manager who never sees anything as the big guy chokes the little guy out on the ropes. The crowd screams bloody murder, and by the time he turns around, the damage is done (nice job Brownie!)and he blames the wrong person—like Mrs Eastwood did last night. And if he doesn’t like that, then what I am going to say next is really going to make his day.
Us working poor—we’re done taking chairs to the head. Americans have been lied to, beaten up and shot down by enough gun-happy cowboys—and ‘we’re not gonna’ take it anymore!” That’s our song, Republicans—not yours. You see, Clint—in every Western I ever saw that didn’t glorify blood-thirsty anti-heroes—the guys with badges (who represented governance and civilization) that protected widows and orphans wore the White hats.
It was the Railroad Barons who held parties while poor folks drowned in water—or debt—who wore the black hats—ya get me PUNK! Because that Empty Chair of yours also represents the number of African Americans that Republicans want in voting booths or they wouldn’t be shortening voting hours in urban districts while lengthening them for Clint’s hayseed friends in the countryside who talk Jesus, but walk Mammon (time to take Darwin out of Wall Street and put him back in the jungle, and in textbooks where he belongs.)
I’ve got one more thing to tell the high plains grifters:
“Well, pardners, we’ve got a strong man sitting tall in the White House saddle already who done left bin Laden dead and GM a-live.”
“ And being born in Hawaii, I reckon he is very much a Native American.”
As for me, I’m done with voting with a-moral cowboys what with their empty chairs, empty promises and empty minds. So begone with you Mrs Eastwood and company—and the horse you rode in on.
Rafalca, wasn’t it?
Thank you Mr Wright
Not Long Ago…in a convention not far enough away—
--a certain high plains drifter dropped by and began yelling at an empty chair. But that Empty Chair was actually the perfect symbol for the Republican Party. After their war in Iraq, there are now LOTS of chairs in American households that are equally vacant—not to mention those empty seats left in Aurora, Littleton and Columbine.
That Empty Chair on stage held all the jobs created by Bain-era corporate raiders, off-shorers and “right” sizers.
That Empty Chair held the number of women that Republicans want to be in charge of their own bodies and the number of regulators that Republicans want to be in charge of clean energy, clean air, or in corporate oversight committees.
Maybe that is why a dullard like Romney is so popular with the GOP now. It is not so much that the GOP wants an empty suit as that Empty Chair…which is--after all—the seat of Government they so despise. They want to run for the seat just to keep it vacant—and ineffective.
There is nothing more hypocritical than men who would tell the voter “Hi, I’m a libertarian/conservative, I don’t believe in government, so vote for me, and I promise to do absolutely nothing for you at all.”
If they don’t even believe in their own job, then they shouldn’t be running, or driving, for that matter, on single payer highways to their lilly-white suburbs. Where the GOP says “we did it” Democrats say “you did it America!”
The Republican insistence upon keeping the seat of government empty makes them the political equivalent of “professional” wrestling referees on the take from the evil manager who never sees anything as the big guy chokes the little guy out on the ropes. The crowd screams bloody murder, and by the time he turns around, the damage is done (nice job Brownie!)and he blames the wrong person—like Mrs Eastwood did last night. And if he doesn’t like that, then what I am going to say next is really going to make his day.
Us working poor—we’re done taking chairs to the head. Americans have been lied to, beaten up and shot down by enough gun-happy cowboys—and ‘we’re not gonna’ take it anymore!” That’s our song, Republicans—not yours. You see, Clint—in every Western I ever saw that didn’t glorify blood-thirsty anti-heroes—the guys with badges (who represented governance and civilization) that protected widows and orphans wore the White hats.
It was the Railroad Barons who held parties while poor folks drowned in water—or debt—who wore the black hats—ya get me PUNK! Because that Empty Chair of yours also represents the number of African Americans that Republicans want in voting booths or they wouldn’t be shortening voting hours in urban districts while lengthening them for Clint’s hayseed friends in the countryside who talk Jesus, but walk Mammon (time to take Darwin out of Wall Street and put him back in the jungle, and in textbooks where he belongs.)
I’ve got one more thing to tell the high plains grifters:
“Well, pardners, we’ve got a strong man sitting tall in the White House saddle already who done left bin Laden dead and GM a-live.”
“ And being born in Hawaii, I reckon he is very much a Native American.”
As for me, I’m done with voting with a-moral cowboys what with their empty chairs, empty promises and empty minds. So begone with you Mrs Eastwood and company—and the horse you rode in on.
Rafalca, wasn’t it?
It isn't sand their heads are buried in.
@Need Re: #10
Steve wrote "bury their hands in the sand".
I was trying to decide if that was a typo.....
It is really hard to get something done if your hands are buried in the sand - or something else.
I think the term you're looking for is analocolarosis.
It is not just that Mitty is out of touch with people, he is out of touch with LITERALLY EVERYTHING AMERICANS CARE ABOUT!
The statements he thinks are ‘humorous’ actually cause him look like a CLUELESS JERK, not a man who is capable of leading the most powerful nation of the free world.
Romney’s behaves more like a ridiculous pseudo version of Vladimir Putin rather than a professional “American” politician who wants to be president of the United States.
Romney is just an "empty suit". He will say anything and do anything he is "told" to do by his "handlers".
Why did he go to France as a missionary? Because he was "told" to go by his church.
Why did he start Bain? Because he was "told" to by his boss.
Why did he go be the face of the Olympics? Because he was "told" to by his church. Romney is nothing more than a piece of machinery that does what it is told to do!!
Unless you know who his handlers are, you can't know Romney. And right now his handlers appear to be that "angry old rich white man" segment of our society who just can't get enough "control" and can't get enough "money".
Very amusing. You should also list Obama's handlers. You wouldn't to do that because they are mostly radicals, socialists, and communists. One other thing serving when you are asked is different from being controled by a "handler". You knew of course Romney wasn't paid for his service to the Olympics. I guess he really is an evil empty suit. Not! You are also ignoring the biggest difference between the two candidates; Romney has succeded, Obama has failed.
Teabag alert!
Not to worry. Prez-to-be Willard is already inspecting the flooding. He just didn't have time to rent the 747 (assuming he doesn't own one) and be photographed flying over, looking down on the wet proles. Once he's Fearless Leader, he'll appoint the missus head of FEMA because real-man GOP FLs send people with horsy experience to take care of catastrophes and remind people of their station. "Heckuva job, Annie!"
Yep, a lot of empty words but not much help! Story of Romney's life!!
By supplying us with scuba gear? Wouldn't that be a government handout?
I know this isn't related, but I wasn't sure where else to put it.
The mayor of a town near mine took it upon herself to scoop up a bunch of pamphlets in a gas station, the pamphlets were about the Sikhs... she scooped them ALL up, then threw them away, declaring that they weren't christian.
Here's more: http://www.kpcnews.net/fence_post/showthread.php?7812-Mayor-needs-to-learn-tolerance
Local media is just getting wind of it, but I thought it might interest others to see a person in a seat of power behaving with such bigotry.
Thanks.
Re: #14
Oh Good Grief!!!
What did Mitt Romney say in his speech? He did mention "Freedom of Religion".
What did Mitt Romney say in his speech? He did mention "Freedom of Religion".
Mittens should have talked about the most important freedom! Freedom of $$$peech!
Sadly, the Republicans weren't laughing at him, but encouraging him. What happened to professionalism in politics?
If you honestly think that the stereotypes and hate speech against Republicans for decades is all just neutral, then I can see why you are so naive.
There's only one side noted for its hate: conservatives. Now it's being returned. How do you like, jac kass?
nice profile pic. It's funny the projecting you "liberals" do. A donkey sodomizing an elephant? Way to keep it classy, loser.
nice profile pic. You "liberals" love to project. A jackass sodomizing an elephant? First of all: since you purport to be a person of science, you know that; that just isn't possible. Second: it's fitting your party's mascot is a jackass. Third: way to keep it classy. I know I take seriously the thoughts of a person with such a dignified profile pic. Hope no one's kids are looking at this "conversation."
"When people in the future look back at Romney's contempt for the idea of "slowing the rise of the oceans," ... history will not be kind."
What future can there be, and what people will be there when the Earth is rendered uninhabitable? Who will write or read that history?
Greed, ignorance, stupidity, and religion have doomed humankind (and most other species) to mass extinction.
When the Cayman Islands are under water he will take the issue seriously.
Wow, this is going to be great for the folks who own future sea side homes in Kansas and Nebraska! And just think how much fun it be to see Mt. Rushmore from a Party Boat! If Barry gets another term it will ruin everything.
you are right about barry
You all make me laugh. You liberals are soooo worried about having a real American leader ruin it for ya. MSNBC, Obama's lap dog, will have nothing to say when a real leader helps get this country back on track. Sure, you will pick apart everything his administration does but the 7 nightly viewers who actually watch the network won't care that he's doing a good job anyway. They will be so disappointed that their freebies will be taken away. I will be one of many who will finally get to sit back and enjoy it. I'm sure the Occupy a shower crowd will still be shouting "GIMMIE" but only MSNBC will be the ones listening and they will be powerless. Karma is a wonderful thing.
The U.S. already has a real American leader. And it's going to keep him.
Wingnut World is going down for good this time. Hard.
Your fellow countrymen asked for affordable healthcare, and you call that an entitlement. They asked for better education for their children, and you sent their children off to war. They asked for a hand up and you called it a hand out. And then you wonder why todays youth just don't care. You are the one who is referring to people in derogatory terms, insulting and demeaning. Nobody is out there shouting gimmie... it is only you that chooses to hear it as such. That you could look on your fellow man and call their suffering Karma makes one wonder if you truly understand the concept of Karma at all.
For every person you have stereotyped in your mind there are dozens of real people out there just trying to get by. They are looking for a way to better their lives just like anybody else. You are free to feel as you wish, but please know that the disdain with which you treat your fellow Americans is very saddening. Being destroyed from within will have the exact same results as being destroyed from without... and you are celebrating...
*Hangs head in sorrow*
Here's a little bit of advise for all you tree huggin' liberals. IF THE OCEANS RISE, IT WON'T BE FROM HUMANS AND THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. There's this little thing that affects our climate, it's not greenhouse gases, it's not CFC's, it's not water vapor or CO2, IT'S CALLED THE SUN AND WE HAVE ZERO CONTROL OF IT. Find something better to do. Get a freakin' life and get a real job. Stop trying to keep this con going and put your ambitions to some good use.
Oh thank you so much Scansin, for pointing out that humans have no affect on their world. Of course the death of an entire species like the Passenger Pigeon happened because they just fell out of the sky and the deformed fish in our waterways is just evolution and all those dying birds and shrimp in the gulf had nothing to do with a manmade oil spill.
And, oh yeah, women's bodies have a magic sauce that will keep them from getting pregnant if raped.
Right wing pride in their ignorance is astounding.
RimKitty,
It's even worse than pride in their ignorance, it is pride in their maliciousness.
If only we could put all of the people like SD to death, then we'd be rid of their carbon footprint, and their stupidity! Win-win! Plus we'd save Medicare funds on Rascal scooters. Then again, we'd also lose our best janitors and clueless lower management types. So, I don't know.
Toss up.
Do you know why there are SOOOO many scientists who claim man-made global warming exists? It's called job security. If it was proven false, all their funding would be gone. All the research they do would be for nothing. All these people who are grasping at anything they can find will find themselves out on the streets once the proof is out there. The sun gets warm, then it cools down. So does the Earth. We affect climate as much as takin' a leak in the ocean raises the water level. God created such a perfect planet for us to live on, and you can't comprehend that because your gods are eco-science nuts who have your liberal agenda. It's sad really. I hope you all seek the truth instead of being the good useful idiot sheep you really are.
@scansin Re: #20
I hope you all seek the truth instead of being the good useful idiot sheep you really are.
Jeepers!
If it was proven false, everyone will sigh with relief.
If it is true and we do nothing than the consequences are severe.
i almost wrote the same. It might happen. It might not. I am a card player and have experience at gambling. When the stakes are this high, we cannot afford to take a chance that it might not. Don't play that hand.
I don't believe that I know more about this than the scientists. Stick your head in the sand and believe it isn't true...but what if it is?
Why would it be more profitable to prove it is true than to prove that it is not? The Koch brothers paid to have a report made about this thinking it would prove it false. To their surprise the report could not do it and conceded the evidence proved that man is causing climate change.
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/07/28/602151/bombshell-koch-funded-study-finds-global-warming-is-real-on-the-high-end-and-essentially-all-due-to-carbon-pollution/
Scansin believes! And everyone knows that belief is the only valid basis for action (or inaction) and trumps science and facts every day of the week.
Job Security? Come on. Really? This are people with advanced degrees. You think they have a hard time finding jobs? Many of the scientist that are studing climate change are doing it for much less money than they could make in other fields.
Psst,stock tip--Aqua-farming. Not to mention the new condominium ships.
Waterworld
Who in the hell is writing those speeches? Jeezuz, they just missed rising waters that could have floated turds through their little party in Tampa and at the moment Romney was very cleverly measuring his words for comic effect people were drowning in Louisiana. What in the hell is wrong with these guys anyway, don't they ever look at the innertubes or TeeVee or anything? I'm living way the hell up here on my quickly melting ice floe and even I know that Louisiana/Mississippi is flooding AGAIN.
Clint Eastwoods speech is symbolic of the times we are in. The 82 year old, who despite his views on everything from equal rights for homosexuals, the environment and the middle class. Remains in a deep and abiding suspicion, possibly a hatred for the nations first African American President; who despite an intentional hostility from the ranks of his own governments highest officials, brought the country far and away from a great depression. This is a generational election, between two fundamentally different ideologies. One centered on the torn reality of the cold conservative party, manifest destiny and predestination, the party of Gods will: and the Neocon philosophies from the likes of Ayne Rand. The parties base truly see's the people that are robing the public for self ingratiation as hero's. Opposed to that there is the democratic party. Ever progressive, tempered with liberal ties to a strong National Government and it's defense. Dependent and indebted on the society upon which it rests. This is an election that will be decided between parents and their children, the last election before self described 'americans' will be sent to senior living facilities. The republican party reminds me of my favorite movie by a republican, (Judge Dread). In a time where after a man has served his country for a life time, he is 'dignified' by being cast out of society. Given rations and a shootgun to defend himself, he quietly walks into the night. The vision of a man who will not burden society in his old age, the republican vision of a true patriot.
Oh yeh, Mitt mentioned you, the son who still lives at home and gazes at your faded Obama poster on your bedroom ceiling. How nice.
Isn't that cute...another petulant teabag.
Interpretation:
I promise to be shortsighted and sacrifice the planet of our children in order to create jobs now which cannot include addressing climate change.
Correction: I promise to be shortsighted and sacrifice the planet of our children in order to
create jobsimprove my investment portfolio nowwhich cannot include addressing climate change.I've said it before, and I'll say it again: today's Republicans are not conservative. They're radical neoliberals when it comes to economics and fascists when it comes to social and military issues.
They're an entirely new breed of politics, and calling them conservative is a slight to the real conservatives who's ideals they have utterly spurned and destroyed. Even the neocons should be quaking and repenting at this point, terrified of the hideous beast that now slouches toward DC to be born.
We need to abort it, post haste. Making sure Romney is still "unemployed" come January 2013 is the scraping. Getting rid of the teabaggers in the legislature is the suction. If we don't, it's the end of our democracy. Look what they've already begun to do.
[edit] Said "politics," meant "economics."