Detailed information is still coming together this morning, but it appears that four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, were killed in Libya by violent protesters. Responding to an obscure anti-Islam video posted to YouTube by some random bigot, and promoted by an obscure Florida pastor, protestors attacked the U.S. consulate in Benghazi with rifles and rocket-propelled grenades.
The Romney campaign, which dismissed foreign policy as a "distraction" yesterday, now hopes to exploit the violence to advance Mitt Romney's political ambitions.
Before violence erupted at the American consulate, the U.S. embassy condemned the fringe YouTube video. Romney, in an official statement, said "the Obama administration's first response" to the violence was to "sympathize with those who waged the attacks" on our consulate. That's not what happened.
I genuinely want to know what kind of person sees a foreign attack on Americans -- an attack that has reportedly led to four U.S. deaths -- and thinks it's acceptable to lie about the violence to gain a few points in the polls. The campaign isn't going Romney's way right now, but is that an excuse to exploit the death of Americans with cheap rhetoric? In the face of violence abroad, this was Romney's first instinct?
President Obama issued a statement this morning, "strongly" condemning "the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi." Secretary of State Hillary Clinton issued her own condemnation of the attack overnight, "in the strongest terms." The White House also rejected some tweets from U.S. diplomats in Egypt that had not been cleared by the administration.
Update: This post originally quoted a statement from RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, but he was referring to Egypt, not Libya.
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Neither the pastor nor the other bigot are random. They are products of the right-wing propaganda campaign, pure and simple. And the Libyans who attacked the embassy are products of a similar campaign. May they all go directly to hell.
Me beginning to think that the Americans are not wanted there. Just leave, and don't go back and try to force your way of living onto others in foreign countries. Problem solved!
the filmmaker himself should be charged with hate crimes and negent homocide
Seriously? In a country where freedom of speech is most paramount, you want to charge a film-maker with crimes because some fanatical *******s took offense?
yes as result of his action in posting a film 4 good men died because he spread a message of hate. im sorry i can not condem his action as just
Yes we have freedom speech, however I believe the following would apply:
Thanx Lorr , very informative
"Fire, fire, fire, fire. Now you’ve heard it. Not shouted in a crowded theatre, admittedly, as I seem now to have shouted it in the Hogwarts dining hall. But the point is made. Everyone knows the fatuous verdict of the greatly over-praised Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, who, when asked for an actual example of when it would be proper to limit speech or define it as an action, gave that of shouting “fire” in a crowded theatre.
It’s very often forgotten what he was doing in that case was sending to prison a group of Yiddish speaking socialists, whose literature was printed in a language most Americans couldn’t read, opposing Mr. Wilson’s participation in the First World War, and the dragging of the United States into that sanguinary conflict, which the Yiddish speaking socialists had fled from Russia to escape. In fact it could be just as plausible argued that the Yiddish speaking socialists who were jailed by the excellent and greatly over-praised Judge Oliver Wendell Holmes were the real fire fighters, were the ones shouting fire when there really was a fire in a very crowded theatre indeed."
The pastor should be sued for wrongful death. Lorr is correct. This is like yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theater. What's worse is that he has done this before. The last time didn't lead to American's deaths, but damage was done. I would never buy the excuse that he didn't intend to do harm. He knew what he was doing.
This is instigating a riot, knowingly, and is against the law. With freedom comes responsibility.
uhh . . no. People died because people killed them based on a youtube video. You are @!$%#ed up in the head if you think it is EVER ok to kill someone based on watching a video (especially one that was posted by someone completely different).
He is protected by the constitution that gives him the freedom of speech. Do you really think America should be more like Libya and take that freedom away? Yeah, let's compare the two countries for a second.
Slow down Keith - No one is excusing the people who actually did the killing. They need to be found and punished for MURDER. However, with our Freedoms are we not to act Responsibly? If we would hold an American liable if they yell Fire in a crowded theater where people were injured or killed, why would the maker of this video not bear some responsibility, even if it just that he have to face the families of the Murdered Americans and apologize for his actions.
Yelling fire in a crowd to invoke panic is something completely different, as that is not a piece of art or self expression. However, the video is an expression and is considered art.
Take a look at comedians that roast the president of the United States on a public stage and is aired nationally. We are able to laugh at that while other nations would chop off your head because of their insecurity. Our freedom of speech (among other freedoms) has let our nation grow and prosper and that freedom must be protected.
The creator of that video was not saying 'hey, go kill these people' and was not directing people to commit crimes.
the film maker insulted a important figure in another religion what would you do if i walked into you church and insulted Jesus. you would probally want to sclap me and rip me limp from limp.
they take there religion very seriousily . might i also ad that the history of islam is wars to defend there religion
And it is his right to insult whomever he wants. That's the beauty of free speech. He isn't promoting violence or telling his viewers to go kill anyone. First, he didn't walk into a Mosque; he posted it on the internet. Second, I couldn't care less if you walked into a church and said that. I honestly don't care what anyone says that is against my belief system because I respect everyone's personal opinion. In fact, I would probably just roll my eyes at your attempt to invoke a reaction. I, personally, don't have that kind of violence in me and I would never have the impulse/desire to violently attack someone and 'scalp' them or 'rip them from limb to limb'. I am not a savage.
And I don't think there has EVER been a mass riot over insulting Jesus. Search youtube and you will find thousands of videos bashing Christianity and Jesus. Then search Google for the resulting mass hysteria. . . . you will come up empty.
Keith - Lets wait to see what all the facts are. I do defend our first amendment BUT I also believe that we must be cognizant of the effect that our words have on others, especially those from other Countries with much different values.
With our modern technologies our words spread faster and reach all people all over the world.
Facts?
Fact 1:
People watched this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmodVun16Q4
Fact 2:
Overly sensitive crazies went ape sh*t over said video and killed 4 people.
Conclusion:
Said people are savages and indecent human beings.
Life Lessons:
Under no circumstance is it OK to knowingly kill other people for expressing their opinion. (and these people weren't even the ones that made the video).
The creator of this video may be an insensitive douche, but he broke no laws, incited no violence, and did nothing other than express his opinion through art.
Sorry Keith - let us agree to disagree.
Sorry Lorr, but I think you're a bit out of line. Our freedom of speech does allow us the right to poke fun of everyone and telling people to pick and choose just doesn't work.
I agree that the film is utter garbage--it truly is a remarkably unintelligent and insulting piece of filmmaking (especially to fellow filmmakers like myself). However, I cannot tell them they shouldn't have made it. In America we have films and plays such as "Jesus Christ Superstar", "The Book of Mormon", "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter", and on and on--we poke fun of our culture incessantly.
The people who made this video were American-Egyptian Christians, poking fun (incredibly insultingly) of a sect of their own culture. The fault of this attack is on the attackers. Saying anything else is the equivalent to blaming a rape victim for inciting the attack based on what they were wearing.
I respect your opinion - it is my opinion that we should be responsible when we excercise our Freedoms.
Let us agree to disagree
Lorr said nothing about people being prosecited for making the film , so your rape victim analogy is complete BS D4F7
We are in a new age of communication , and our minds have not caught up with it yet , getting film makers , and people who are on the front lines of serving america , on the same page, is certainly not to much to ask of people , the film makers I know are also responsible citizens
i would also add that if you (Keith and D4F7) that said freedom is a right with a hevay responceabilty. the filmaker didnt just "poke fun" at Islam. he insulted there main figure.
again its like if i went into a church and shouted anti christian sloagans. i would be arrested and charged with hate crimes. in this case 4 men were murdered. but istead of holding a film maker accountable for his actions this adminstration has order our troops to hunt down the killers with first looking to our own guilt.
freedom of speech is all well and good till some one gets hurt or worse kkilled.
What a load of bull manure. I don't care if the "film" maker depicted every prophet of Islam in a pink tutu having carnal knowledge of pigs, it is just a stupid video, and under no circumstances should ever make its creator liable for the violence that some superstitious mob is incited to commit in response. In all likelihood, most of those medieval peasants never actually saw the video, the were simply (over)reacting to what their village voodoo man told them about it.
We get the same thing here, you know. Large groups of pious idiots congregate outside of theaters and bookstores to register their indignation against movies or books that they are far, far to righteous to read for themselves. In this case, it seems like some operatives took advantage of the situation to create a violent and deadly situation.
Turn the tables--imagine that in a Pakistani newspaper, an story described the Christian Jesus in vile and despicable terms. Imagine then that this whack-job pastor motivated his whack-job congregation to murder a local Pakistani and burn down his place of business. Would that crime be attributable to the author of the story half-way around the world? No.
This isn't about media, blasphemy, or faith. This is about man-made institutions that operate to keep groups of people ignorant, afraid, and superstitious, so that when they are called upon to pitch a collective fit they grab their pitchforks and torches and never stop to think.
"We demand that you apologize for apologizing for our racist video. Hopefully you won't be so quick to apologize for our next one, titled "Our black muslim wants to kill your black muslim". Thanks." - The Right
Large, you're pretty quick to want a war, as is "your" candidate. I suggest you calm down.
Bignose, your lies only make your nose grow longer!
large, you need to use //snark// to show you are being sarcastic. Folks are taking you seriously.
Organized Religion- once again the bane of humanity.
During the Cold War the slogan was "Kill a Commie for Christ."
Where, exactly, was that a "slogan"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gargoyle_Humor_MagazineWhere,
I've always thought that Voltaire had it right . . . "The problem with Christianity is Christians" that could be said about all religions.
Rachel, I was hoping the show would go into more detail into that YouTube video and the people that announce these provocative acts (the insulting video, or announcing plans to burn the Koran) KNOWING that it will anger the Muslim world, without regard for the consequences or the people they endanger.
The unfortunate consequence of this is that mugwump Jeb Clampett wannabe Terry Jones is going to end up having a microphone shoved in his ugly puss allowing him to further inflame the situation . He needs to be prosecuted .
Wow. The Muslims certainly have you two cowed.
@ Pooper242...
I am really tired of your worn out sh!t.
Jones is on the same moral plane as a bigot who stirs up a similarly inclined mob of bigots to commit a lynching and then claims he's not responsible for the foreseeable consequences of his rabble rousing. The fact that the mob, in this case, were supposedly opponents of Terry's rather than supporters, is irrelevant. People are responsible for the foreseeable consequences of their own actions. That's a basic principle of law. Indeed, it's the underlying principle of civil and criminal law and the religious law of every major faith.
And people like Shooter who gleefully apologize for the rabble rowsers and those who exploit murder for political gain bear their own small share of responsibility as accessories after the fact.
I think we need to start a troll rating system
Rather than feeding your favorite trolls , just rate them 1-5 with a 1 for totally off topic to a 5 for a full out flame with copious quantities of links and pasted crap.
No fuel - No fire
Shooter ..sorry ...1 for that one
Who's next step right up
bannedagain..
Irish pat ..
Steve, there's a bit of a difference between stirring up a lynch mob and making a film. If you can't see that, then you have no business commenting.
What's the matter old man? Too feeble to hit the ignore button?
sick, that is what it looks like when the left capitulates on principle to appease power. Are you really going to defend that?
sorry shooter ...1
Why is this man still classified as a "Pastor" Where are the other "so called" Religious Leaders (Catholic, Jewish, Protestant, Baptist, Evangelical) denouncement of this man and his preaching of hatred and intolerance? Oh that's right they are too busy being Political instead of doing their job of teaching God's words of love, forgiveness, tolerance and understanding.
Shooter, in actual fact, what it looks like when there is capitulation to appease power is the modern USA. The rest of the world has looked on in growing incredulity as the young, charming and filled-with-potential nation has grown into a self-indulgent, cranky and unstable adolescent with a god-complex and nuclear weapons.
What capitulation looks like is the fact that people like you get to decide that you don't like the "other" so, you believe that it's perfectly acceptable to make a film that insults, denigrates and demeans the "other" and your only defense is ... "I'm an American. You can't touch me." Which as we've learned, is not only inaccurate but maladaptively stupid.
It's not "without regard for the consequences." It's worse. Jones and Bacile want people to be hurt and killed. They think it helps them prove to the world that all Muslims are evil. The dead, to them, are just the eggs you have to break to make an omelette.
Thanx 80's girl
These are the same people who would defend JIM CROW as exercising AMERICAN FREEDOMS to this day , one look at voter suppression confirms that
Cagle, if I'm interpreting your comment correctly, you were trying to say that the difference is a lynch mob acts with intent to harm or kill a single individual, whereas making a film does not take that act.
Of course, when one posts said film to YouTube and thereby distributes it to a potentially worldwide audience, there is clearly intent to extend the hatred expressed in the film. It directs the hatred at many people instead of one. It solicits support from millions rather than a localized lynch mob of 20 or so individuals. Yes, making the film doesn't directly kill anyone, but it carries the potential to do much more harm, and the bigots who made it were irresponsible nutjobs who apparently could not comprehend the potential impacts to the safety of Americans abroad. I'd say that's much worse than a lynch mob.
Thanks all you sane people who tried to straighten out the insane bigots and idiots. Of course, you know they won't accept your arguments because it is the practice of bigots and confirmed idiots to prefer lies/non-reality to truth/reality. It is, in fact, a sign of mental illness. But enough of that. Supporting that "limit to freedom of speech" comment, there is a law on the books right now against "inciting to riot" which is germane to this act of the filmmakers. They SHOULD be arrested and charged with those people's death--voluntary manslaughter at the very least. And that Pastor SHOULD be condemned by his colleagues and defrocked. But God'll take care of his ass and soon, because he's taking the name of the Lord in vain. This last sentence is only for people who believe in God by the way.
Romney is not fit to lead this nation. Period. He has absolutely no diplomatic sense whatsoever as evidenced by his sophomoric condemnation of President Obama on one of the nations most solemn anniversaries while events were still unfolding in the Middle East. Do Republicans really hate Obama that much to elect this woefully unqualified hatchet man to represent the leadership of America to the world? That speaks volumns to the shallowness of todays Republicans.
Yes .to all of the above.
I don't want any more hand wringing and anguish about anything we do that will prevent those a$$holes from gaining power.
I am Mitt Romney and I approved this political maneauver. This is me handling the 3AM call.
My leadership skills include:
-opportunisitistic use of situations where Americans have died for my own agenda.
-utilizing strong tones and debunked talking points to deflect my inability to face conflict or danger.
-working to find any opening where I can insert, not a calm rational voice, but a layer of unnecessary and dishonest blame over hot situations.
-I will be there for you (as long as you are white, rich, and have voted for me)
Please elect me President of the United States.
Unfortunately the people who vote for Romney stick their heads in the sand so as to avoid the realities of what it would mean to this Country if the right wing conservatives take office. They are very good at characterizing the President as a person who cares nothing for the welfare of the people. It seems to me that Mr. Romney, who apparently will do or say anything to get elected, actually thinks so little of our Country that he puts his money in foreign banks, invests in foreign companies, and refuses to show his tax returns for fear of alienating those voters currently on the fence. Hey Mr. Romney: clean up your own back yard before taking someone else to task for the messes you and your party have created. And P.S. Your party has already screwed the pooch on the economy, giving the President your mess to clean up. Considering how bad things are which were caused by the inept running of the previous six years by Pres. Bush, I would slink away and hide if I had the nerve to call myself a die hard Republican.
What you people don't understand about Romney and business men in general, is that they practice diplomacy 24/7/365. Business is all about relationships and those relationships are built, measured, and destroyed on what people do, not what they say.
Obama is the guy at the poker table who doesn't know who the pigeon is going to be. (For those in Palm Beach, Obama is to the one to get plucked)
Your just a complete moron Pooper , and that post solidifies it , the only thing getting plucked is romneys head on election day hater , your lame innuendo of obama being killed is disgusting to say the least
@CagleMarlowe. Obviously, I'm too dumb to understand how making making a movie and putting it on Youtube that you know will incite people who are as bigoted and extreme as you are to violence is different from inciting people who share your particular brand of bigotry and extremism to violence. So do, by all means, enlighten me. I can hardly wait to hear it.
I'm not questioning Terry's legal right to make the movie under the Constitution. I'm pointing out that he bears moral responsibility for the foreseeable, and almost certainly anticipated, consequences of his decision to exercise that right in the way he exercised it.
Inciting ignorant religious fanatics you hate to commit acts of violence against innocent bystanders to further your own particular brand of ignorant religious fanaticism's agenda is every bit as evil as inciting bigots you like to commit acts of violence against people you hate.
If you can't see that, I would suggest that you're the one with the vision problem, not I.
We're missing the obvious again. The LameStream Media MUST pursue Mitt, challenge him on this allegation, make him admit its untruth, and then press him on where he got that inaccurate information. He'll either blame someone inside his campaign (and hurt himself) or blame an outside source, which will either deny it, or turn out to be some lunatic fringe rag (that he'll look like a fool for having relied on), OR, he'll have to admit he just made it up. Mitt will have no way out if competently pressed. Some merely competent journalist just has to do it.
I gav up a while ago being distracted by the miserable person of Guv'nor Romney . The focus at present is to relieve the nausea caused by his blanket . His blankie is the one that didn't murder a woman , but sure did create an underfunded pension and deletion of insurance expected after retiring . Y'know like the stuff elected officials vote fer themselves ...
Viv La distinction sans différence !
Something must be done about the level of intolerance and religious incitement that many on the right wing fringes of conservatism are engaging in. We are turning into a quasi-theocracy where the people of the world take the reckless and hateful actions of a few fringe extremists for the policy of the United States and the feelings of the people of the United States. Terry Jones, this filmmaker and other Republican kooks need to be told to stop their behavior before more lives are taken or threatened. Religious conservatives are openly seeking to foment a holy war between Western religions and Islam, with the full backing of the GOP and Mitt Romney. Free speech is one thing, hate speech quite different -- principled progressive
"Free speech is one thing, hate speech quite different"
Not at all that's why the founders were wise enough not to make such a distinction. They knew that the more you try to repress speech, the more attractive you make it.
News flash banned , the klan have been sued many times over , and people convicted and sent to prison for what you ignorantly claim as FREE SPEECH , that you miss all that information out there on the subject is not shocking tho
And we are dealing with the world stage on this subject , to apply the constitution to what has happened in lybia is a joke and a cop out , I am sure you were praising FREE SPEECH for the iranians back in 1979
Lets dont forget, FOX does the same thing, day after day.
While I recognize that it is not an issue that MSNBC, Rachel Maddow, and Steve Benen are willing to discuss, there is also a question that needs to be asked and discussed.
Are Benny NutAndYahoo, The Likud Party, AIPAC, and the ameriKan NeoCons 'gaming' our election cycle to get us involved in a war with Iran?
It is unfortunate that our corporately owned media (including MSNBC, Rachel Maddow, and Steve Benen) are unwilling and unable to discuss the Middle East from any sort of balanced perspective because of their fear of the AIPAC/Jewish lobby.
It is just that sort of ridiculous, bigoted, and narrow minded rhetoric fed by a hate mongering group of people that couldn't keep their intolerant, prejudice opinions to themselves that caused the uprisings in the first place. Once again lets say its a "Jewish Conspiracy". Always the go-to scapegoats, huh. If you need someone to blame, the Jews are handy, right SAD OLD VETERAN? How ignorant people like you are.
Well Josh Marshall is sure as hell willing to discuss it. It's all over TPM today.
And its becoming increasingly hard for me to put the temporal coincidence between the marked increase in the bellicosity of the rhetoric of Netanyahu and his fellow extremists in his government (and the inevitable run up in the price of oil) and Mitt's visit to Israel is a mere coincidence. The fact that, as of yesterday, Netanyahu has now stepped over the line into overt meddling in American electoral politics now that the run up in gas prices hasn't handed the election to Mitt lends credence to that suspicion.
You must not have been watching the news for the rest of the night, as the story progressed and they had more info, that very possibility of the election cycle tampering was discussed in depth with several consultants..
@Elenor...
Why the f*ck are @ssholes like you yelling Anti-Semite whenever anyone raises a question of influence in the American political system by AIPAC? Is it 'unfair' to question Israeli politicians and their american supporters when they are blatantly attempting to influence our politics? Is it 'unfair' to ever question The Likud Party? Maybe you should read some of the English language newspapers in Israel. They ask questions that seem to be off limits in the U.S. because of fear of being labeled anti-sematic.
Exactly mr vet , as if there is no difference between the right winger jewish community , and every other jew ? it is like lumping the gop today ,and every american in our nation, all together as one , give us a break elenor
SadPatheticVeteran, I suppose you can cite specifics to your claims? Give specific quotes and sources that are not your words.
Here are apparently the tweets in question:
"U.S. Embassy In Cairo Deletes Tweets After Protestors Kill Staffer In Libya"
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/us-embassy-in-cairo-deletes-tweets-after-protestors
Our Constitution has freedom of religion in which every person is allowed to have his or her own faith. In addition, we have a separation of church and state so no one religion can impose their will on the other or start dictating policies that will cause misery and despair for certain groups of people. For Romney again to stupidly say to condemn the reaction to what has happened recently in the Middle East is foolish and again shows his lack in leadership and proper handling of foreign policy. President Obama has never said anything to condemn the Islam religion and has more been for the freedom of people to have their religious faith they want. If anything President Obama has shown to be more of a good Christian by loving your neighbor and respecting peoples religious faiths. These people who claim to be so Christian or religious fail to even follow their religious beliefs and keep pushing what is really hatred. And Romney is at the head of the pack with his mind of lies.
The way Romney talks with his nonsense, we would be in another war before all the facts are known. That is an outright idiot and how can you ever call a person like that as a leader to resolve serious issues when it is not. Romney’s idea of foreign policy is when he was much younger having others brutally hold down a teen so he could cut his hair. That is someone who totally lacks understanding and just bullies his way through accomplishing nothing, except more trouble.
Reince Priebus (@Reince) commented on Twitter: "Obama sympathizes with attackers in Egypt. Sad and pathetic." How utterly shameful.
Reince Priebus is what is sad and pathetic, he seems to be Mitt's evil twin or is it the other way around?
Sedition in 142 characters or less.
There was a time when a chair of a political party would have had to resign for putting out an ignorant statement like that; I can't imagine that a DNC chair would not have had to resign if they had tweeted something similar about a Republican president.
Reince Priebus is one of those guys who is all balls when he's in the safety of his office or an orchestrated press conference, but you know he wouldn't dare say those things to Obama's face.
I'd bet that if Reince were on Romney's cabinet and this happened, he'd probably run and hide in the vault. And he'd need a fresh pair of whitie-tighties and pants to change into.
Muslims stage violent protests and kill Americans over videos calling them a violent religion.
There must be no word for "irony" in Arabic.
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Does not appear to be any 'irony' in the ameriKKKan tealiban either.
Try reading some 'Informed Comment' about the protests in Egypt & Libya...
http://www.juancole.com/2012/09/romney-poses-as-militants-burn-benghazi-consulate-killing-one-demonstrate-in-cairo-over-islamophobic-film.html
Well said Rachel, Mitt Romney has no business (no pun intended) running for POTUS he could not be more incompetent.
Reince Priebus (@Reince) commented on Twitter: "Obama sympathizes with attackers in Egypt. Sad and pathetic." How utterly shameful.
I think the movie has a political motive, just the other day I saw a post in HuffPo guaranteeing Romney's victory, when I question the poster they said, “Won't have to... Things, BIG THINGS are about to go down...”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Picguy2/biggest-lead-over-romney_b_1868893_185573381.html
But really, Rachel, how "obscure" is this "bigot"ed "fringe" Islamophobia? Because I personally feel like we're a country full of Islamophobes, whether our prejudices are borne out of ignorance or just plain old hate, and while it breaks my heart that this attack occurred, I don't think that denying that fact does anyone any good.
But really, Rachel, how "obscure" is this "bigot"ed "fringe" Islamophobia? Because I personally feel like we're a country full of Islamophobes, whether our prejudices are borne out of ignorance or just plain old hate, and while it breaks my heart that this attack occurred, I don't think that denying that fact does anyone any good.
The President was exactly right to condemn the violence and the perpetrators of that violence. He did not condemn the country, nor the religion.
Stupid, hateful, and violent things are done all over the world, in the name of every religion, every day. To condemn every adherent of a religion, for the acts of every other adherent, is equally stupid and hateful.
So, basically, it comes down to every single person involved, except for President Obama and Hillary Clinton, is acting like a spoiled child. I'm so sick of hearing about riots because overly sensitive Muslims didn't like some obscure Youtube video. It literally makes me want to burn an entire stack of Korans just to spite them and their idiotic religion. They wonder why so many people hate Islam and its practitioners. It's because they make it so abundantly clear that they are, in fact, so many children throwing temper tantrums every time someone does something they don't like.
And as for Romney...are any of us surprised he immediately started spewing lies?
And then you wonder why people hate Americans and Christians. But, god forbid anyone should keep you from making an arse of yourself publicly. Carry on with your own idiotic and childish rant about a people of whom you clearly know nothing.
I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians, they are so unlike your Christ. Gandhi
1.5 billion Muslims think their religion has been insulted by Terry Jones. An extremely high price has been paid for his freedom of speech. He has no idea of the consequences of his actions. He is a pathetic human being.
Four Americans die in Foreign Service in a foreign land. Mitt's first response is to attack the POTUS? Real classy. Let us know how that strategy works out
We'll see in November, he's whistling to his base again...
Call me crazy but I'd suggest telling the new Libyan government to publicly execute those that killed our diplomats AND
Make Pastor Terry Jones the new Libyan Ambassador so he can see FIRSTHAND what he has done with his RACE BAITING...LOL I'm betting he'd last 5 minutes.
So the completely misguided statements by Romney were released on Sept 11? So eager to bolster foreign policy creds as to rush to outrage before the facts are known.
That sounds like the mentality that pulled the US into a war with Iraq back in '01.
Had the opportunity to give a one finger salute and scream "Murderer" as Terry Jones' car passed, about a month ago, when he came to speak with local T-party. Can't help but think it would have been desirable if one of the demonstrators in Libya had been in my position that day.
My thoughts on the current subject are that we've had enough rights infringed upon... lets not further limit our freedom of speech.
The problem, once again.... religion.