Tonight's guests:
- Richard Engel, NBC News chief foreign correspondent, live from Cairo, Egypt
- Bob Herbert, distinguished senior fellow at Demos and contributor to PolicyShop.net
And here's executive producer Bill Wolff with tonight's stories (roll tune):





Asberger's Syndrome or just post-hypnotic suggestions? The eerie way the lies keep lobbing out of his mouth may mean a trainer, relaxation therapist or dentist may be controlling the GOP nominee for President of the United States.
YO! Levels are still really low in Bill's video previews. I can barely hear him even when I put my computer speakers on max. Meanwhile, the pre-roll commercial just blasts me out.
Please...bring back the term Tea Bagger when referring the....well....Tea Baggers!
Guys, deep breath.
Maybe its because I just re-read Asimov's 'Foundation', but the whole Libyan Embassy attack smells like old CIA Dirty Tricks.
Who says the killers were even Arab? Why not some of our home grown right wingnuts with their special ops violence fetish? With the huge amount of money sloshing around, and wars winding down, all those private contractors need to find other work. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.....
Gun and militia nuts would consider a sponsored action like this a holy mission and a wet dream.
Cheney is still with us, remember? And all the war loving neo-cons. What's a few more lives to them?
Think O'Keefe with talent.
Remember that what you see has been selected by others to communicate emotionally at gut level. Never eat a wild mushroom without knowing who picked it. .
"Never eat a wild mushroom without knowing who picked it. ."
I think you did.
Just waiting for the trailor that identifies which SuperPac is behind the funding that is pooring gasoline on the fire in the Middle East.
Rachel Maddow just said that someone made a "stupid" video "which causes this to happen around the middle east today."
She is a racist. Why does she think that Muslims are not able to control their temper? Why should she believe that the irrelevant actions of a stupid movie producer can determine the behavior of thousands of men on the other side of the globe? Only if she thinks those riotous Muslims are inferior beings who can't be held responsible for their own behavior. Racism.
Calling it like she sees it man. You don't see the Mormons turning over cows and burning hay-bales and there's been PLENTY of derogatory movies about them!!
What's the difference?
The protests that sparked world wide in Sudan, Libya, Yemen, Egypt, and so on were protests in outrage of the video released on Egyptian television and the internet. This is not wild speculation or a racist remark. I can't even comprehend how you're extrapolating this. The protestors and their respective representatives came out and immediately stated that these protests were in response to the video. The attack was not prompted by this video- those were two separate issues. However those who carried out the attack used these protests as cover in order to launch an attack that they had already planned. All of the governments in the countries in which these protests took place came out and denounced the film in addition too. Are they racist too? This is the stupidest comment....
JTNeal, I suspect you're just another instigator, but here goes. Every population has its hotheads. There's nothing Muslim about it. Classic scene:
First Guy walks up to Big Bruiser in a bar who is drinking with his buddies.
First Guy says: See that guy in the blue shirt over there, next to the blonde?
Big Bruiser says: Yeah?
First Guy says: He told me your mother sucks (*^&*
Big Bruiser says: What!?!?! I'll beat him to a pulp!
Big Bruiser walks over with his buddies and tries to make good on his word and a big fight breaks out. Bottles and chairs are smashed. First Guy walks out leaving chaos behind. Innocent bystanders and hotheads get hurt on what had been a peaceful evening.
That's what Steve Klein, "Sam 'Im' Bacile" and Terry Jones have claimed they are doing. Only its not a bar, it's every country that has a population of Big Bruisers waiting for an excuse to pound on some "Others"
JT get a grip. Some jerks made up a stupid conspiracy theory that Barack Hussein Obama was not born in the United States. 30% of US voters believe this baseless allegation is true because they are inclined to.
This has been equally commented on in the same terms members of the press such as Maddow... Do you believe this assertion of the stupidity of this segment of the US population is racist?
Assuming the worst in others based on lies is as old as our ability to communicate with one another. In this day and age, it is not difficult to verify facts, but even Presidential candidates cannot be bothered. Stupidity is an equal opportunity employer- regardless of your race, your affluence, or your nationality.
Your choice which team you want to play on.
Per Richard Engle finding that education is needed on how Americans think and feel, maybe meanwhile we should send them WWMD bracelets (What Would Mohammed Do). He taught non-violence and against hostilities. Certainly what they do is against what they do it for.
JT......we will need to invent a new word to describe your comment. Please hold.
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After watching Richard Engel's section on the protests in Cairo, I find it hard to get really upset with the protestors. I think about it like this, he states that it is a small group of people who have the mindset that it is their duty to stand up for an offense committed against their prophet and they think that the US government is involved because they have been so isolated in their information and education that they grew up beliving that the government controls everything while outwardly denouncing it. If you think about it, why wouldn't they think that way. They probably have grown up with very little education, opportunity to meet others outside their own beliefs, probably with family members that reinforce those beliefs through their own ignorance. Now that they aren't under a dictatorship that wouldn't allow this type of protest and are now in a newly forming democracy with the freedom to express their views, this is the only way they know how to express themselves. (Keep in mind I am referencing the protestors and NOT the attack of our consolate in Libya, a totally separate event)
If we were able to take a deep breath and step back from emotion for a minute, we might be able to see some parallels to several groups in our country, you know the ones, hyper sensitive to their religous beliefs, not regularlly exposed to competing opinions, not very educated, surrounded by friends and family with the same values, often seen protesting against events that have offended their religious beliefs (Monty Python's "Life of Brian", "The Last Tempation of Christ" and "Dogma" come to my mind without much thought.)
I think if we come from the view that we belive in democracy and freedom of speech, we should be able to understand that these protestors have the right to their thoughts and not be labeled unamerican for having that understanding. I hope that we continue to try and understand competing viewpoints, to continue to calmly discuss our differences and respect those that don't agree. That is the only path toward peace.
Something or someone is fanning the flames in an already volatile country, using people who's emotions are already on a hair trigger, to manufacture problems they can leverage for sound bites.
Desperate times, desperate measures. What's next?
"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." Rahm Emanuel
Well Stkn since these all involved reactionary groups I suppose that's up your alley more so than it is ugota's....
Nah, just being contradictory to to all the Tinfoil-hat types who are saying it's the GOP and Oliver North doing this... Trust me, neither of those @!$%#-extremeist-groups are that smart. Just stirring @!$%#...
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Who dubbed the Bacile video into Arabic? Who would have wanted to pour gasoline on Muslim fires like that? Whose interests were served? We don't know who did it, but we do know whose interests were served: Al Qaeda's and the Al Qaeda wannabes. They don't want peace between the US and the Muslim world, and, after the Arab Spring, they may have been afraid that peace was possible.
Well, the first thing I thought, after hearing what happened and listening to Romney was that his campaign financed the film. Stranger things have happened. We really don't know how low they will go now do we?
First of all this was not some movie producer. This was a YouTube video that did in fact stir sentiments in the Muslim nations in question. Unfortunately a group of terrorist wannabe's used this time to inject violence which led to the deaths of four American citizens. You obviously wander in the same delusional world as Romney. Yes it was a stupid video and yes this person should be condemned for in-sighting a riot as it were.
Is there a roundabout time that the show makes it to the website? 11pm-ish? Midnightish? Thanks!
Mitt shot from the hip and did shoot without aiming, i.e., aimed at Obama without knowing the facts, who said what why, provoked by an American diplomat's best assessment of what needed to be said on the ground in Egypt six hours before an "attack." Surrogate Portman didn't know that the next morning after making a false statement, but he continued HIS talking points anyway. As did many other "spokespeople." Most people, including moderate and balanced Republicans like Peggy Noonen, knew this was a no-no and that taking cheap political shots at an acting U.S. President in the midst of a murderous attack on our consulate in Benghazi before the facts were known was not kosher; it was most inappropriate, and was a break with the previous bipartisan consensus of respect and support for our U. S. President whenever he is engaged in an immediate crisis . "Either be cool" under such circumstances," Noonen advised, or "be silent."
I think Romney's huge faux pas was such an exclamation point sealing his fate, after his "status was reversed" and he was suddenly losing to Obama in the polls by five or six points even in a FoxNews' poll, that top advisers or one top adviser like "Bush's brain," Karl Rove, decided: "We have to save our man on this one or the Republican cause is definitely doomed this round." For it would have been. How else and why else would we suddenly hear sixteen quite varied Republican Top Guns (from McCain to the new, so-silent, Big George Bush to [and next to] his previously distanced, old SecDef, Rumsfeld, et al!) THE VERY NEXT MORNING ALL JUST HAPPENING TO BE SAYING THE SAME THING AND CONCLUDING WITH HOW RIGHT ROMNEY HAD BEEN AND WAS!? Strange. Let me repeat: they were all saying the same thing, concluding with how right Mitt Romney had been and was. Far Right maybe and very Far Wrong, too, no matter who supports the candidate. Big guns blasting and Romney trying to save himself by doubling and tripling down doesn't turn an error into a save or a foul ball into a home run. Unless super-billions of Super-Pac money can supersaturate certain swing states well enough, in my opinion this contest was decided this week.
Doesn't anyone have the right to make a Movie?