I read it like you first time aswell, but it is written correctly in context if not in grammar, if you take out the hyphenated sentence it reads

"decreases in the jobless rate are not always good news -- -- but that's the case with the new data."

last part of the text should rather read "but are in the case of the new data," or just "but are in this case"

Agreed. Republicans have killed every attempt by the president to create more jobs. They want our economy to fail. For them it's all about regaining control of the White House. They couldn't care less about the people who are suffering because of job loss. They've been absolutely shameless.

No, Republicans do not want the economy to fail. We just disagree with the Dems priority of public sector jobs vs. private sector jobs. Giving our federal tax dollars to dysfunctional state governments (the so called Jobs Bills) with gigantic budget deficits is not sustainable vs lowering the heavy hand of higher federal taxes and regulations which would spur private sector jobs which is sustainable.

private sector jobs have been falling.... if they hadnt the report would probably look better.

Hank

You seam to have forgotten the tax breaks and the deregulations under Bush. Where is the trickle down from that Presidency? O ya those jobs are over sea, with millions of dollars in the Cayman Island banks.

You also forget the first words out of the Republicans in 2008 - we will insure that this President only has one term. No the Republicans do not want the economy to fail just the current President, the fail of the economy is just collateral damage, as the Republicans put their party before the country.

One last point - Police, firemen, school personal, military personal, our Representatives, our Senators, the U.S. Supreme Court Judges, and the job Romney is going after, President, these are all public sector jobs.

Ok make that two last points - Just because a company is in the privet sector does not mean is can do a better job, it just mean the person who is actually Doing the work, is getting paid the minimum, while the CEO, paid the big bucks, has delegated every thing off of their plate and can now spend the day partying with the other CEOs, comparing bank account size.

No I value a private job more than a public sector job because I have to pay the salary, healthcare and the pension of a public worker vs. a private worker which I do not. I live in CA and our state is spending much more than it is taking in, much of it is due to an explosion in unfunded public worker pension liability. In fact Brown has put on the ballot an increase in sales tax and income tax in a direct nod to the teachers union to cover their unfunded pension liability. So in a state with one of the highest tax burdens, Brown is seeking to raise taxes even higher to pay for teachers pensions.

So just as businesses move their jobs to other states or countries where it costs less, I will be moving to a state with lower taxes if CA votes to raise our taxes in Nov.

I beg to differ, sir. I, too, live in CA and the "unfunded public worker pension liability", as you put it, is not an "explosion." The burden public worker pensions places on our State's budget has been growing slowly and steadily over the last 3 to 4 decades. The only thing 'explosive' about it is the speed with which the Rabid Right turned it into a cause célèbre for their base. Further, many of the benefit enhancements were placed on the ballot and approved by voters. I know this because, as I say, I live in CA and have voted here for the last 40+ years. The problem is that they made sense back in the day when we thought CA would always be the Land 'O Opportunity. No one ever saw a day when things would go south, so to speak, and the debt would come due. Short-term planning and all.

As for valuing one type of employment over another, I assure you, it don't matter a lick if your job is public or private, if it feeds your family. I'm fairly certain that if the chips were down and the only job you could get to feed your family was a public one, you'd snatch it up in a second. I know I would.

You mean we're not ALL out of work? 100% unemployment? Quick-- call FOX "News"...I need this confirmed!!

Steve - What about the U-6 #?

U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force.

Sept 15.7%
Aug 14.6%
Jul 14.2%

Persons marginally attached to the labor force are those who currently are neither working nor looking for work but indicate that they want and are available for a job and have looked for work sometime in the past 12 months. Discouraged workers, a subset of the marginally attached, have given a job-market related reason for not currently looking for work. Persons employed part time for economic reasons are those who want and are available for full-time work but have had to settle for a part-time schedule. Updated population controls are introduced annually with the release of January data.

By "everybody" you must mean people who are out of work not of their own volition and cannot find a job....so they've given up. That would count most people over the age of 50. And yet, it's WAAAAY over 8%.

The U-6 rate was 15.7% in Sept, up from 14.6% in Aug. See above.

If it had of been a Republican it would be a dramatic success... probably standing in front of a banner " Economy Recovered"

Saw the Jack Walsh tweet, though God that man is a twit.

You will notice the numbers for the past two months have been revised up so it is likely the unemployment rate has been below 8% for a while now. That seems to fit with what I have been experiencing around here.

yes, that is what i mentioned on another blog. With the revisions, and the numbers are always revised in hindsite, we have probably been under 8% for a couple of months and with hiring for the holidays coming soon, we might see another drop a couple days before the election.

And if we had been allowed to invest in infrastructure the last 2 years , which is the normal thing for a nation like ours to do , UE would be pretty close to the regular rate , gop dysfunctional gov strikes again

Its their political party OVER america every time , sorry , but you do not see dems being this twisted , or I would not be a dem

And when Mitt says the middle class isn't feeling it yet, Obama should point out, "And that's exactly why your policies are a bad idea. Trickle down economics doesn't work."

and when romney says " that was in spite of your anti free market policies "

Obama can say ,," no , that is in spite of all your pals stashing american made profits in caymen / swiss bank accounts"

Jack Welch tweets conspiracy theory over better-than-expected jobs number - The Tell - MarketWatch

See? I told ya.

Agreed. It won't die. They've created their own reality.

We're talking about the nominee that brought back Death Panels... Romney knows that people aren't informed. He will lie to them and tell them the number went down because workers have given up.

Given up, yes, Mitt. The winter homeless die-off, from lack of having a warm garage elevator to sleep under...

All's well in a Romney tell ...

along with faux news and their graghic dept

along with faux news and their graghic dept

but why wont they ever mention that the voting system is rigged, or being so. A really dangerous thing is happening now with regard to voter fraud but they never mention anything about it.

Mitt: I love it here, look at our trolls, they are just the right height.

"FYI... Scarborough is saying that the jobs numbers and the unemployment numbers do not make sense taken together. I'll leave that to you."

The payroll numbers come from a survey of employers while the unemployment rate comes from a survey of households. They are TWO DIFFERENT SURVEYS. The +114,000 and 7.8% numbers don't HAVE to add up.

Joe's a shill...plain and simple...really SIMPLE.

Joe has the highest rated show on MSNBC. None of y'all on here or precious Rachel can beat his ratings or popularity.

Someone said it was a handkerchief - that he used at the end of the debate.

In the second clip, I see him collecting paper off the podium - but I think they both had paper they could take notes on during the debate.

Willard had to have something to keep all of his lies organized!

Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rates for adult men (7.3 percent),
adult women (7.0 percent), and whites (7.0 percent) declined over the month.
The unemployment rates for teenagers (23.7 percent), blacks (13.4 percent), and
Hispanics (9.9 percent) were little changed. The jobless rate for Asians, at
4.8 percent.

So if voters voted according to their own self interest, then whites and asians should vote for Obama and young workers, blacks and hispanics should vote for Romney. Ha! Wouldn't that be interesting?

But, the good kind, right?

This is good news for the US economy and American workers, right?

You betcha! ;-)

Do you have something against good news for your nation, Sminton?

So, exactly where is the line? Where is the line positive indicators can cross before those rooting for failure have to admit that Obama is moving the country forward?

But there is no line, is there. If the field isn't delineated, then you can keep moving the goal posts, can't you. Just like Romney.

Coffee, Sminton, like the rest of the low information

factually challange baggers, birthers and blamers

hate for Obama, is muck stronger then their love

for America.

As long as Obama loses, the 47% are collateral damage,

acceptable in thier eyes as long as Romney wins.