Earlier today in Philadelphia City Hall. Click for the original photo.
Last week on the show, we highlighted Philadelphia for pro-actively telling voters they do not need to have ID in order to vote. That has been the case since a judge put the law on hold, back on October 2. Even so, some local governments have been slow to change their websites. Philadelphia was ahead of the game, and trying.
Today, Jess Gulash tweeted us a photo from Philadelphia City Hall of poster reading, "You must have valid photo ID to vote on Nov. 6." Since it is outside the office where people register to vote, the poster has a helpful handwritten addition: "Ask Us -->"
We reached Philadelphia City Commissioner Stephanie Singer, who said, "I think that may still be up there, and it needs to come down." She walked away for a minute, then returned and said the poster had been removed. She thanked us for calling. (I've been thinking that all this misinformation about voting in Pennsylvania is like when you open a bottle of glitter -- you can never get rid of every last bit.)
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Glitter bums.
"(I've been thinking that all this misinformation about voting in Pennsylvania is like when you...)"
Are determined to lie, cheat and steal to achieve your original objective - disenfranchising voters, or in this case confusing them enough to stay home!
Sorry Laura, "glitter" is at least a "happy" thing, this is outright voter suppression because you don't want "other" to vote cause they won't vote the way you want them too!
Mad dog Corbett should be held in contempt of court
Hmn - it would be great if the person who tweeted the photo could check back tomorrow to make sure some "True-the-Vote"-type hasn't sneaked it back up.
"(I've been thinking that all this misinformation about voting in Pennsylvania is like when you open a bottle of glitter -- you can never get rid of every last bit.)"
It also makes Pennsylvania's voting regulations look like they were constructed by a class of 3rd graders and why many of the officials are acting like they are 10 years old
Voter ID laws, voter intimidation and wealthy employers holding employees hostage to get them to vote the way the CEO demands, is beyond reprehensible. Especially (but not surprisingly), for Republicans who claim their single driving force is freedom. I guess this doesn't apply to the freedom to participate in our democracy. Yet again another example of how empty mainstream media’s false equivalency is, because there is no Democratic equivalent in any way to these tactics. Democrats are so opposed to this that Democratic employers wouldn't even muster up enough to pretend to do the same thing, just as an example of what true equivalency would look like. Although, it would be nice to punk mainstream media with something like this. So after they jump to this single example as equal to the tidal wave of examples from Republicans, we could jump out with Ashton Kutcher making it crystal clear how destructive it is not to let reality (the facts) choose sides.
Don't you have to have an ID to be employed?
What time zone do you live in, the twilight zone... Wealthy employers holding employees hostage to ge tthem to vote the way the CEO demands. Fool.
. . . President's Lincoln's view of voter repression of minorities . . .
William O. Stoddard, 3rd Personal Secretary to President Lincoln, recalled the President's final words to him when Stoddard left the adminstration in 1864, of how important the right to vote is:
"Take these things with you then' - passes, letters, orders for transportation are in your hand - 'and now there's just one thing I want to say. The war is nearly over. Just when it will end, I can't say, but it won't be a great while. Then the Government forces must be withdrawn from all the Southern States. Sooner or later, we must taken them all away.
Now what I want you to do is this: do all you can, in any and every way you can, to get the ballot into the hands of the freedmen! We must make voters of them before we take away the troops.
The ballot will be their only protection after the bayonet is gone, and they will be sure to need all they can get. I can see just how it will be. Will you?
http://www.mrlincolnswhitehouse.org/inside.asp?ID=67&subjectID=2
- John V, Philadelphia
requiring an ID isn't suppression. they're FREE. you can't do anything in this country without one. the only thing it suppresses is people that are fraudulently trying to cast a vote.
Name me one of these people, and I'll agree with you.
Name me one of these fraudulent voters and I'll agree with you.
What is wrong with having to show an ID to vote?
It is sometimes extremely difficult to get a license. In Virginia, for example you need 5(!) forms of documentation:
A primary and secondary form of ID, proof of legal presence, proof of residence in Virginia, and proof of social security. They have an enormous list of these types of documents, but not everyone has everything on the list. My proof of legal presence is my birth certificate. Imagine if you're an older person without a birth certificate. You'd have to jump through hoops to do so.
Now I will say it's fine to make the judgement people need a proof of ID to vote, but NOT this close to the actual vote. Those laws are purposefully making it inconvenient for people to be able to vote, and doing so in a way that inconveniences those who tend to vote Democratic.
Katherine Lorraine, you know you should not lie. I just checked the VA DMV and it says to get an ID card you need to documents! Everyone should have a birth certificate and a social security card, so it should be pretty easy. YOU can't get a job without these, so unless you aren't planning on working (sounds like a democrat) you should be ok. PS I have a disabled son (really, really disabled) and he has both of these documents AND an ID card.
When you have to take a day off from work, without pay, to get an ID: That ID isn't free.
When you need to arrange transportation to one of the limited number of places you can get an ID: That ID isn't free.
When getting that ID involves getting other documents that can cost up to $500: That ID isn't free.
BTW JTLavery, you should look a bit closer. VA requires the following things to get an ID:
2 proofs of identity
PLUS
1 proof of Virginia residency
1 proof of legal presence in U.S.
1 proof of your social security number
Note that neither a birth certificate nor a social security card will be proof of Virginia residency.
That poster is horrible. It looks like police tape in front of the voting booth, like it's a crime scene. Wow.
Today during the Ellen show which Rachael was a guest a commercial ran that said you needed a photo ID to vote. The commercial ran on channel 10 which is the same company as MSNBC.
From the website listed on the placard in Philadephia. Incredible...
The PA Courts have delayed full implementation of the voter ID law until after the Nov. 6 election. Poll workers will still ask voters for a photo ID, but no voter will be prohibited from voting if they don’t have one.
The best thing you can do is that if you have friends or family who live in Pennsylvania is to remind them to bring their ID with them to vote - regardless of what happens with the law.
Echoing the language of the 15th Amendment, the Act prohibits states from imposing any "voting qualification or prerequisite to voting, or standard, practice, or procedure ... to deny or abridge the right of any citizen of the United States to vote on account of race or color. Specifically...
The right of citizens of the United States to vote and hold office shall not be denied or abridged by any State on the account of race, color, nativity, property, creed or previous condition of servitud
No discrimination in the exercise by any citizen of the United States of the elective franchise, or in the privilege of holding office, shall in any State be based upon race, color or previous condition of said citizen or his ancestors...
is drivers license acceptable.???
To simplify, EVERYONE must have an ID (with voter ID law) not just minorities, so the the 15th amendment preventing supression of voting by race or color doesn't apply.
Unless lack of acceptable IDs just so happens to be a problem which is disproportionate WRT race.
Echoing the language of the 15th Amendment, the Act prohibits states from imposing any "voting qualification or prerequisite to voting, or standard, practice, or procedure ... to deny or abridge the right of any citizen of the United States to vote on account of race or color
The right of citizens of the United States to vote and hold office shall not be denied or abridged by any State on the account of race, color, nativity, property, creed or previous condition of servitude
No discrimination in the exercise by any citizen of the United States of the elective franchise, or in the privilege of holding office, shall in any State be based upon race, color or previous condition of said citizen or his ancestors
IS a driver's licence excceptible.???
"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."
Joseph Stalin