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It's rare to see an argument that relies as heavily on voter ignorance as this one.
Expanding the campaign map into a state next to his own, Representative Paul D. Ryan held his first rally in Minnesota in the dwindling hours of the race on Sunday, dividing remarks between criticism of President Obama for failing to lead and promising that a Romney White House would reach across the partisan chasm as the president had not. [...]
Mr. Ryan, who was chosen as Mitt Romney's running mate for his ability to excite the conservative base, made one of his strongest appeals yet to bipartisanship. "Minnesota and Wisconsin, Wisconsinites and Minnesotans, we are bipartisan states," he said. "We know you have to work with people across the aisle because they're with us, they're part of us, they're in our own families."
I'm sure the focus groups told Ryan's aides this kind of rhetoric would resonate in a state like Minnesota, but unless the congressman is living in some kind of alternate reality, the bipartisan schtick, coming from him, is deeply ridiculous.
Sahil Kapur had a good item on this in August, explaining that, as an objective matter, Ryan has a well-deserved reputation "as a no-compromise conservative ideologue, an approach that has become more rigid during the Obama administration."
As we talked about soon after Ryan was added to Romney's ticket, after seven terms in Congress, the grand total of important bills Ryan passed into law with the help of members from both parties is, quite literally, zero. He takes cheap shots; he questions his rivals' motives; he says things that aren't true. When condemning Democratic leaders for championing Social Security, he calls them "collectivist, class warfare-breathing demagogues." In 2011, Ryan killed a $4 trillion debt-reduction plan because he "was concerned that a deal would pave the way for Mr. Obama’s easy re-election." He cared more, in other words, about campaign politics than his own stated policy goals.
Paul Ryan is easily one of Congress' most bitter, rigid partisans. His far-right supporters may find that admirable, and that's fine, but voters should at least have an honest debate about Ryan's record, and not pretend that he reaches across the aisle to get things done.
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Anyone who wears the Republican brand is not a good person to be speaking credibly about "reaching across the aisle!"
Bi-partisanship was dead on arrival when the disrespectful Joe Wilson yelled "you lie" to our POTUS for no good reason other than to put this president on notice the Republican brand was out to lynch him! -Kevo
A question: Has Paul Ryan hurt his chances at becoming the GOP's next standard-bearer?
In a rational world, he'd be disqualified based on his conduct since August alone -- the absurdly fib-filled convention speech, the lies about everything from marathons to mountain climbing, the nasty and rigid policy positions, etc., etc.
But we don't live in a rational world. So is Ryan still the "next one" for the GOP? Or will he be where he belongs in a few years: leading sparsely-attended Ayn Rand book club meetings in small midwestern towns?
I heard his people are booking meet and greets, and that a rap/weightlifting video was in the works. Alot of it will be based on that searing look he daringly darted at us with his turned-around baseball cap as he gritted out set after set of that heavy iron... Keep an eye out...
He is done ...you summed it up pretty well. As soon as we got to see he is just another empty suit career politician
LOL Lebowsky Dude
romney just proved you can be full faced dishonest , and the msm , along with gop voters , will give you a pass , he is all in
just everyone remember he does not like being called CONGRESSMAN after 7 terms in office lol ..... watching eddy munsters face contort trying to explain that to the msm over and over again would almost be worth it
Wellllllllll, he could always get a job in the back row of the next Tony Horton P90x 2013 ~ then again, spare me the Spandex !
If were going to get crazy with voter ID laws then before someone can vote, we should also include mandatory viewing sessions of previous statements by the candidates. We should sit people down for an hour to watch candidates past statements right next to their current statements. Although, I'm sure there will still be many who will say these viewing sessions are CGI productions put out by the liberal media.
Speaking of lies, will it be a lie when Obama raises the employment tax back to the 2008 rates? Since he claimed the FICA as a tax cut, then won't it be a tax increase when he lets it expire?
Yes, voter ignorance is a very real phenomenon, but you should never underestimate the willingness of those on the right to accept lies they want to hear.
Yes, but even the voters in Minnesota saw what was happening in Wisconsin under Walker - so much for "bi-partisan", "bi-polar" maybe "bi-partisan" definitely NOT!!
Not intended to offend anyone that actually suffers from being "bi-polar".
Ho Hum... Another brazenly insulting shot by a truth-bankrupt losing Republican campaign. This latest try at being all cumbaya is going to really motivate the base to wait in long line to vote...
The GOP claiming that Obama is divisive and partisan is like a murderer claiming, "But your Honor! He walked into my knife... backwards... 27 times... in his bed!"
It was suicide your honor, six shots to the head!
Unbelievable isn't it grumpy liberal bastard. One more example, among way too many, of Republicans and the media breaking all records for low standards. I only hope that after all the dust clears, these examples are so extreme that it actually sets the standard of never allowing this standard again.
I think the choice of Lyin' Ryan is proof of the old adage, "Water seeks its own level."
These are two remarkably loathsome people.
Bizarro Ryan has appeared. Or just it's more lies.
Those of us who live in Lyin Ryan's district are fully aware of what he is or isn't about,And it sure isn't Our District, Let me remind everyone of this When Robme chose Lyin Ryan as his choice for VP, and they made the Big Homecoming to WI trip, WHY IS IT THEY DID NOT GO TO RYAN'S HOMETOWN OF JANESVILLE??? BUT TO A FRIENDLY REPUB AREA OF WAUKESHA??
So Ryan might lose not just one seat, but two?
N M Coffee, WE can only hope, ROB ZERBAN is running against Him
Put a fork in Ryan; IMO, he's done when Romney loses. Also, when Obama makes more progress on the economy, the T-party will be done, as well. Cantor, Ryan, and the whole crowd will be out of the House of Reps. and the T-party will fizzle out.
It will be good riddance to some really bad rubbish.
I find it hilarious that the bar is so low for "expanding the map" that credulous journalists apply the term to a candidate who holds one rally in a state.
In the real world, this is desperate flailing to find any state where they might win when the polls are all against them.
What you just said. At the same time, the report on Paul Ryan's forray into Minnesota didn't mention that he picked the most-conservative, rural corner of the state to show up. Needless to say, he stayed far away from the Twin Cities where he might have been called out as the freak show that he is.
The entire Romney-Ryan campaign has been built on lies. By my count, Mitt has told more lies since the primary season began in January - I had 941 through Saturday - than Bush told about Iraq.
Bi-partisanship? Hello, pot, this is kettle! Besides the fact that, as pointed out in the blog post, Paul Ryan is the antithesis of bi-partisanship, his running mate is just as bad. Somebody noted the other day (it might have been here but I'm not sure), Mitt vetoed something like 800 bills in the four years he was governor. The Massachusetts House overrode 97% of his vetos while the state Senate voted to override every single one.
In Mitt's World, that's bipartisanship. He knew they would override. Whatever got passed by the Democratic MA legislature was done so with Mitt's blessing - just not his signature.
What's the bet that Obama lets the keystone pipeline go in. Of course, they will tweak it a little, then Obama will claim he made it safe, then he will allow it.
Rusty,
The whole reason Obama said no to Keystone was that it was submitted with a plan that would disrupt a major aquifer that serves over a million people. The Obama administration told them to resubmit it with a different route/plan and they would likely approve it. That resubmission is expected to happen in about February. So if Obama approves a safer plan then, why shouldn't he take credit for making it safer?
Charley James, Unfortunately, it looks like the House of Reps will remain exactly the same. That being the case, gridlock could continue as their hatred for Obama hasn't improved with age. Damn shame. I want those treasonous, hateful, obstructionist idiots OUT.
I just voted. Beautiful day here in PA. I don't want to say we live in an isolated, wooded area, but the only person ahead of me was the guy I came with: my husband. I saw two of our friends coming in to vote as we were leaving.
Romney coming to PGH today to speak. That 20 minute drive into the city isn't worth the hassle. I can cuss him out here in my living room with no one shushing me.
It is heaven here with the deer and the possum and the little critters of the night.
If SCOTUS Justice(s) is the what we get from a second term for President Obama and no Congress bipartisanship:
1. It will be really sad that no cooperation is still the Rs number one goal.
2. I will be satisfied that we got SCOTUS nominated by President Obama and not Rmoney.
For that along with foreign policies, I will be elated.
It truly frightens me to think "if it goes to Rmoney".
Hey Sandy, Greetings from sunny, beautiful PA! It is a joy to vote here. There was no one but us in the room, except for a few people working there, whom we knew. They had big pots of hot soup going, chili, hot kielbassi, hot dogs, and all kinds of pastries. A few of our local officials were sitting there eating breakfast.
Looks to me like an Obama win, so don't get discouraged. The thing that troubled me was Fox did not carry the presidents last campaign speech in Iowa last night and it was beautiful. CNN and MSNBC did, of course. Fox had big mouth and Karl Rove on, bad mouthing the president. How awful. No wonder there is such hatred; that network fosters it daily. That was an historic speech, too. Damn shame.
I just love living in such a quiet spot. May I ask what state you'll be voting in?
I already voted in sunny CA (it will be a record warm day again today). I am in the Northern half of the state, in an area north of SF, where we did not vote for Prop 8. It's not big city, but sort of suburban to agricultural area.
I sent my ballot in and verified it was received and deemed "good". That was a great feeling. I usually vote in person, but they wanted us to vote early, so I did.
The only real suspense here (I believe) will be the ballot initiatives. We have a lot of those. Danny Glover robo called last night. We have a death penalty initiative, which I voted to repeal it, but my partner probably did not. I hope it stops and life without parole instead. I feel bad for victims' loved ones, but I have seen innocent people put to death, while the actual person is free.
I watched and recorded on my DVR the President's final speech for himself. It was great and his voice, and Pres. Clinton's voice are going to need some rest now.
I wish the MSM would report more accurately without bias of ownership and selling ideologies, but at least we have SOME choices, although Faux is more widely available and included in the basic channel lineup.
#9.7 Sandy,
As a long time member of Amnesty International, I hope and pray ALL states repeal the death penalty, for the reasons you stated.
Bill Clinton is and has been absolutely priceless.
Kj- well, the story will change to what you said and he will take credit for making it safer and passing it. Few will recall they argue heavily that a) all temporary jobs, b) all the oil is going to china and c) oil is nasty stuff from Canada and we don't want it. Word has been whispered that he has promised unions it will be signed after the election.
I must comment...on the picture you have included with this post. Cantor, Ryan and Boehner - the Holy Trinity of obstructionist douchebaggery. That is all.
Actually, Unholy Trinity.
I think Vladimir Putin may have been on to something when he said let's make the treason laws stiffer. In my opinion these GOP people in the house are just short of being treasonous. Let's stiffen that if they start the BS again with the president.
So far they've voted against the country four years in a row, holding up the jobs and keeping the economy from growing more quickly. Their starving the states of government workers also raised the unemployment numbers. All to make it look like Obama was a failure. I wish more people knew how that worked. Our unemployment would be around 6.5% now but for them.
To the GOP trolls, Yes I know he's in Russia, but I happened to hear on the BBC that he said that. I'm not advocating communism. In fact, I hate that sob.
I'm not a Muslim and not from Russia and not from Kenya. OK?
I just don't know who the heck this Bruce Springstein is.....what made him famous? What does he sing? I don't listen to popular music as I was raised by a classical violinist mother. I can't stand anything else to this day.
Well, Pink Floyd is good.
This must be a generational thing. Springsteen is a NJ guy.
He wrote, plays guitar and sung some great songs during Vietnam era and from then on.
Born in the USA- an anthem for Vietnam Vets (still makes me Cry)
Born to Run- awesomeness of American life
I'm on Fire-love, romance and breakup
Mostly rock type music, but folk and ballads, plays lots of Pete Seeger Folk
http://artists.letssingit.com/bruce-springsteen-9kptt/overview
This compiles some of his songs.
I think you can click a song and listen, if you'd like (on the right after you click the song)
Here's Born in the USA http://artists.letssingit.com/bruce-springsteen-lyrics-born-in-the-usa-kzs5ltd
Sandy! Yes, I have heard Born In The USA! Thanks. The others don't ring a bell. This is funny, I said to my husband, "Why do they call him the Boss; I thought that was Frank Sinatra!"
He says he wants a divorce! LOL
No, All my life I've listened to classical music. I was raised on it. For example, jazz actually hurts my ears! LOL
So you are in CA! How nice! I've been there a few times, to San Francisco and friends in Laguna Beach. Beautiful place. I want to go on record as saying I like Joan Baez, who lives in your state.
Sinatra can still be "Chairman of the Board", because I heard Springsteen doesn't like "the Boss", anyway.
I like classical as well, but Jazz needs to be more bluesy for me. Some of it is very complex, but I can say NO Jazz is some good stuff. I like "That Bucket's got a Hole in it"-Preservation Hall. I like almost all kinds of music, including Folk/most Pop/ R&B/Soul-Motown/Rock/Blues/Reggae/What I call "Mountain" music/Bluegrass (most), some Country/ Some Jazz/Classical/HipHop/not too much into Rap, but I get that that is what life is like for some folks-like a very sad poem.
Joan Baez is really good too, from the Folk/Protest days. Beautiful voice. I Dreamed I saw Joe Hill Last Night, Amazing Grace… beautiful!
I used to go to Laguna Beach, beautiful area. The Art Festival is wonderful.
Sorry for choking in disbelief but Ryan was one of the group of fourteen republicans (12 congress members plus Frank Luntz and Newt Gingrich) who got together in a DC restaurant on Obama's election night and vowed to block every piece of legislation or nomination that Obama and the dems made...even stating they would become the Taliban in blocking all attempts made by Obama to do good for the nation. He committed acts of treason in bringing down the economy without regard for the people made to suffer by his actions. He is a despicable liar. Thom Hartman has the list of repubs who were at that meeting who claimed the "seeds of the 2012 election are being sewn tonight by our obstruction..." Look at what they have done to block everything...record fiflibusters. One filibuster L. Johnson had to deal with in 6yrs and here Reid has had to deal with over 380 in the same period...plus blocking all the judicial nominations they could get away with...even when more than 50 senators approved...they had to have 60...so never say dems had a senate majority for more than 2 months because it now takes 60 to have a majority.
How can republican voters even look themselves in the mirror after having voted for Lyin Ryan. Guess denial is king.
Fortunately, Harry Reid knows he made a big mistake last time. That won't happen again. Now we just have the get the House whipped into shape.
Is it just me or does anyone else think that photo looks like a mob boss and two goons
Do they have baseball bat's?
"This is an awful nice country you got there; it'd be a real shame if something were to... happen... to it."
Well ladies and gentlemen, Considering the Democrats penchant for being uncompromising, autocratic, and obstreperous, Mr Ryan should make you feel right at home.
It's a good thing Obama has paved the way for circumventing Congress. Heh.
No that was Regan
Ummm, no, Shooter; your memory must be faulty. Democrats compromise, and have done so extensively. The GOP are the ones who fight to the last ditch and won't take yes for an answer.
They keep talking about bipartisanship but they never offer specific examples of how they will be bipartisan, because it's easy to say you'll be bipartisan, when you believe bipartisanship means the other side doing what you want.
In fairness, I posted this on Ed Schult'z radio show blog earlier today. Here are some thoughts about the election. I think President Obama will have a good night. The Senate will stay Democrat and a chastened GOP will have to work with Democrats in the House on President Obama's agenda. I am being an optimist here but here goes:
I am thinking President Obama could up to 303 electoral votes if he can take all the swing states in the polls that he is ahead in today. This statement is assuming President Obama has a good night. If he has a less than good night the President has several paths to 270 but the main states to watch are Ohio, Iowa, and Wisconsin. If the President takes these three states he will be at 277 electoral votes regardless. Ohio has President Obama up by 3 points, Obama up 4 points in Wisconsin, and Obama up 3 points in Iowa. Remember these are the averages of polls and individual polls maybe higher. The Huffington Post has an electoral map that you can play around with. This map is good because it takes the average of at least eight or nine polls for each state. Polls can vary widely based on the quality of the sampled population so paying attention to anyone particular poll is a poor idea. I always try to take a look at a specific state's polls overtime for a trend. Typically this is a better predictor of election day results. My prediction is a long bleak night for the Romney campaign with 277 electoral votes for Obama at a minimum and 303 electoral votes for Obama on a good night. This is the range we are looking at but the range is all above 270 electoral votes for President Obama. If you are a Democrat like me stop worrying and in the name of God get you and your family to the polls if you have not already early voted.
The Senate also looks pretty good for Democrats. Many pundits months ago were predicting that the GOP would take over the Senate. The Dems will hold at least 51 seats with several more undecided. I am thinking that we will get 53 seats for sure with two more too close to call. Angus King in Maine is an independent who will probably caucus with the Democrats. Tammy Baldwin in Wisconsin could win but she is only 0.7 points ahead. Heidi Heitkamp was up by 0.5 points in North Dakota. These two races would give Democrats 55 seats in the Senate a comfortable margin. Most importantly we need more women in the Senate. Elizabeth Warren is doing very well in Massachusetts against Scott Brown. Tammy Baldwin is a strong progressive. We need more women Senators, especially progressive ones. These women will get in the faces of the conservatives and will be strong advocates of women's reproductive health and support the two or more Supreme Court justices that President Obama will probably get this term. If Heidi Heitkamp wins she will make a strong consensus builder across party lines. Heidi is a moderate and Rick Berg has been a flop of a candidate who has underperformed and has many GOP analysts deeply worried. However, in conservative North Dakota right wingers win on the abortion issue. Heidi is an excellent candidate but I am worried about my neighbor across the river. So 53 seats for Democrats seems likely on a good night with 55 seats possible on a not so good night.
The House is looking bleak for Democrats. We might pick up about 10 seats 15 short of 25 that we need to take back the House. The flood of special interest money from the Super-Pacs Citizens's United ruling and gerrymandering have taken their toll. The low approval rating for Congress means that the Congress has a low approval rating but individual Congressmen will get reelected regardless. The Tea Party will still be a force in the House at least on paper. Personally, I think the Tea Party will be much less of a problem this session.
However, here is a thought for optimism. If the GOP loses the White House and makes few if any gains in the Senate it will be a time for soul searching in the GOP. Many Republicans may start to realize that the demographics for conservatives are shrinking drastically. There just are not enough old angry white people around anymore to guarantee the GOP's appeal. So if the GOP is going to be relevant, they will need to go through a gut wrenching civil war between Tea Party conservatives and more moderate elements in the GOP. It makes little sense to be against the Dream Act, comprehensive immigration reform in a society with large numbers of growing Hispanic voters. The GOP voter suppression attempt is the last hurrah of a major party trying to court only one demographic: the old cranky white voter.
The radical Romney/Ryan budget proposals look like they are going down to defeat. So I am seeing the House GOP caucus becoming extremely fractured because John Boehner is smart enough to realize he can not stall legislation for four more years. Serious issues face the country compelling many moderate Republicans to break with the Tea Party. You could see a new majority form between the moderate break away faction of the GOP and the Democrats in the House. If Boehner is smart, he would marginalize the Radical Tea Party people and break apart his party. The GOP Speaker will have a gun to his head to get things done because the gridlock of the last two years is totally unsustainable. In the process of reforming the Republican brand for 2016 the GOP will be forced to work with the President getting much of his agenda passed. Spending bills, infrastructure bills, and raising taxes on the rich will have to happen on time and on target. Senate Democrats may also reform the filibuster rules this session. So the idea of a Boehner/moderate GOP faction siding with Democrats to get specific legislation passed is a highly likely and necessary process. The country can not afford more gridlock because the economic challenges posed by China, India, and the other Asian-Pacific rim countries means that America has to get its House in order. I am making these assumptions on the belief that the GOP has to go through internal gut wrenching changes to be competitive in 2016. The GOP can not go further to the right the must move back to the center and join with Democrats for specific bills to get passed.
Rex- election night 2008, the GOP was written off by the mainstream media as completely out of it for years to come. Seems you agree they've made significant gains.
All I am saying is that if Boehner stays Speaker of the House, the GOP can not obstruct all of the President's agenda like they have this last two years. The country has too many pressing problems with energy, infrastructure, health care, the budget, and a whole list of issues that can not wait. The GOP will have to go through a civil war of sorts between the pragmatists and the ideologues in the Tea Party. There is a good chance that the pragmatists in the GOP will not want to commit political suicide. If the GOP wants to keep control of the House they will need to produce many compromises with Democrats to get things done. The idea that they can obstruct all bills or that the gridlock can continue is absurd. Mark my words, the GOP is going to have to give Grover Norquist and Karl Rove the finger and swallow hard and raise taxes on the rich to get a budget deal. This will cause a civil war in the GOP ranks but it is a civil war that must happen for the good of the country. We need to have both parties go back to the moderate center where compromise, consensus, and informed debate drive decisions during the legislative process. Right winged ideology is going to die a sudden death because it is politically unsustainable but first the GOP has to decide if it wants to be a viable 21st century party or a party for the Tea Party lunatic fringe.
Rex, your lips to the GOP's ears. Well I just voted and the only person ahead of me was my husband. I saw two of our friends coming in to vote as we were leaving. It is a beautiful, sunny day with deep blue, cloudless skies here in the PGH area. We are 20 minutes from the city, but we live in an isolated, wooded area. It is heaven here with the deer, the possum, the groundhog, and the little critters of the night.
BTW, I agree with your electoral vote prediction. I think VA will be the closest state, or Colorado. Obama will win. I was so disappointed late last night as CNN and MSNBC carried the president's last speech in Iowa. FOX did not. They had Rove on, talking to O'really. How depressing. No wonder their viewers have strange ideas!
Obama isn't willing to work with Boehner. Obama's "my way or the highway" attitude doesn't work.
We'll probably have 4 more years of nothing unless Romney gets elected. Romney has negotiated more deals than Obama could only dream of. Things will get done.
The fact Obama had to ask who the GOP house leader was after the 2010 elections said it all. For two years it was "my way or the highway". Then it became the dang GOP won't go along with me.
Rachel Maddow needs to stop jabbering and start interviewing. As much as I agree with her, she's become a major bloviant. And those clothes she wears, yeesh. As if she doesn't bore you to death with her non-stop prattle on obtuse points, she does the same thing with her wardrobe. Ed Schultz may be the 'voice of the working person' for MSNBC, but he has the intelligence not to wear the same blue collar garb every night.
A couple of years ago Rachel criticized the Democrats because they weren't doing something they do best, although I can't remember what that was, it's a valid criticism for her now. Her best talent is interviewing (Rand Paul, anyone?). She's abandoned her strength in favor of trying to demonstrate she's the smartest girl in the class. Yawn. While I watch the rest of MSNBC as much as I can, Rachel now inspires me to tune in Current TV to see what Jennifer Granholm is having a discussion about.
Have a good day.
Obama/Biden...
I am a registered Independent and have always voted for the candidate, not the party. But after this year, I will NEVER vote for a Republican again in my life! The nasty, lying ads the Romney camp has been playing are insulting to say the least. And anyone who aligns with the dirty hypocritical religious right tea partiers have no business running my government! Throw them all out of office Tuesday - all across the country - Please!
I think the 'bipartisanship' in the family that Mr. Ryan mentions is that of him and his wife.... She is a Democrat they say....not sure, since she has said hardly anything during the campaign, so I guess this is the kind of bipartisanship Mr. Ryan refers to!
So it was a bipartisan effort when he and his wife were both washing clean pots and pans in the empty soup kitchen for a cheap photo op!
Yes, like that! When they weren't " really" working together.... I mean, they weren't really working!!
People - you know what to do. VOTE. Get your mamma to VOTE - your pappa to VOTE, your grandma, aunt, uncle, sister, brother ... to VOTE ... VOTE. Take your neighbor to VOTE. VOTE. VOTE. VOTE VOTE.
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"Bipartisanship" to Ryan and his ilk is merely having a conversation with one of their multiple personalities.
Rachel & Steve: Informative breaking news from CA on another topic:
http://news.firedoglake.com/2012/11/05/california-agency-releases-evidence-of-money-laundering-in-right-wing-campaign-spending-on-ballot-measures/
"California’s Fair Political Practices Commission forced a mysterious $11 million donor [from out of state] to two ballot measures to reveal its secret funding sources today, and the result showed how most of these independent expenditure groups work, mostly through money laundering:..."
"They are a corporate front group which received initial funding from the insurance industry. [and there are links to one of Karl Rove's groups] And the Center to Protect Patient Rights is run by a Koch Brothers operative, Sean Noble, who admitted the money laundering to the FPPC. This is a misdemeanor under California law, but conspiracy to commit money laundering is a felony."
"...So all this spending did its job, by spreading thin the spending on the left and possibly defeating a tax measure that, if it fails, will lead to more stinging cutbacks in public services and a further drowning of government in the bathtub."
I sincerely hope our justice system finds a way to sock it to these guys big time!!!!!
Mitt's idea of bipartisanship is agreeing with what the other Mitt has been saying.
Seriously, didn't Bill Clinton go over this at the DNC?
Obama took a GOP Secretary of Defense and took two Democratic challengers and made them Vice President and Secretary of State.
but voters should at least have an honest debate about Ryan's record, and not pretend that he reaches across the aisle to get things done.
Well, they don't call him Lyin Ryan for nothing.
WAY too late for that now. And it was never going to happen because there were no penalties for lying. If you have any respect left for the media after this election campaign, you are one fu ked up human being.
I am disgusted with it all. It will take a long time and a whole lot of continual consistency before Congress and the mainstream media get even an ounce of their respect back. The approval ratings of both of these institutions will stay in the single digits for a long while.
Why do the names "MITT ROMNEY" and "PAUL RYAN" appear on the Florida Ballot before those of the President and Vice-President "BARAK OBAMA" and "JOE BIDEN" ? Not only is "DEM" ahead of "REP" in any alphabetical listing, but "Barak Obama" comes before "MITT ROMNEY" and "Joe Biden" before "Paul Ryan" alphabetically. Is the order decided by coin toss?