To his great surprise, Wilson in Brooklyn came home the other day to find a letter from the National Rifle Association encouraging him to join up. The letter, signed by NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre, begins:
"With the re-election of President Barack Obama, we must face the fact that we are at the beginning of a four-year nightmare."
The letter contains the standard offer of a bonus pocketknife, but it might be updated with namechecks for Senators Chuck Schumer and Dianne Feinstein for "still jumping on every new tragedy to push sweeping gun bans." The letter also taps "CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC and CNN." You'll find the full scans after the jump. If anyone has the NRA's 2013 Action Survey, please send it. UPDATE: Action Survey here, h/t @BillBixby81.
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Interesting how the NRA draws such lines in the sand about the evil media. It's like saying the vast majority of Americans are being duped by some cabal. I prefer to have my intelligence not insulted, I like to be respected for my knowledge. Apparently NRA members do not mind being disrespected. I have my own eyes and ears, along with a brain. When an organization makes such a statement about virtually all media, they are trying to tell me I should not trust what I glean from my own senses. Thats so offensive...
And yet he never misses an opportunity to put his festering pie hole in front of "the evil media"
I have yet to resolve in my mind how someone arrives at that mindset.
I guess it's the money and the power . Strong brew
Unless you have some reason to be informed about gun laws...you're not.
The propaganda and misinformation is overwhelming with most of it coming from the "overly victimized" (in their opinion) NRA. Bottom line...They want to put a gun in every home and in every citizen's hands with freely encouraged ammunition suppliers. If only they could put a gun in every Chinese hand too. These arms dealers and war profiteers only care about profits and the only way to avoid disaster is to ignore them completely and regulate the industry heavily. If you have a good reason to own a gun then you can have one.
NRA members would be the first ones to fail the sanity check if real gun control was instituted. Sad little losers, the bunch of them, needing guns to make up for their tiny johnsons.
I love how Piers Morgan is having these raving morons come on his show and demonstrate to the public what insane losers they are - like the one yesterday ranting about "1776 again." proof of what happens when the cholesterol from all those double cheeseburgers fatboy so obviously lives on replaces the blood in his head (not in his brain, since he obviously doesn't have one).
I can't wait to read that Wayne LaPierre was Guest of Honor at a single-car fatality.
Bottom line...They want to put a gun in every home and in every citizen's hands
Uh huh. They are in it for the money. Their slogans are designed to boost sales. So what. Forget the NRA. Start listening to the Republican Party with repeats those same juicy slogans. What is THEIR motivation?
If you knew anything about guns you would know the media constantly gets factual information about firearms incorrect. If your aforementioned brain is also not equipped with the correct information, how could you possibly know the bias? Such a bias can easily be explained by the metro locations of major media hubs where gun use and ownership is low. They don't know they are being biased even if they cared.
These attempts to vilify the NRA are feeble and ineffective. The numbers and accusations are just not true. When you openly shout down their armed guard proposal you are shouting down half of all Americans who agree with it.
I'm not joining up until they offer a gun that shoots pocketknives instead of bullets.
The NRA has been spouting that nonsense ever since Wayne LaPierre became the Executive Vice President. In the old days the NRA stood for something. These days not so much.
Wayne and his bunch became the "majority" in the NRA the same way Lenin and his bunch became the "majority" in the Russian Social Democratic Party back in 1905.
Sure the NRA stands for something. It stands for keeping all that sweet, sweet dues money rolling in to the NRA. You wouldn't want Wayne to have to use a crapper that's merely plated in in gold, would you?
Quick google search brought up the action survey: https://www.nra.org/action-survey/default.aspx?s=ngo2012&ek=Y2KA647C
You win, Billbixby81.
Here is a link to the NRA's online 2013 action survey. (Link)
And thanks to you, too, John.
Laura-
There's a lot of bored old farts out here on the net who know how to research things fast. TRMS staff might consider putting up a note with a list of research interest areas, and I think you'd be surprised at the volume of high quality material we could produce. Communal collaboration- wow what a concept. That is if MSNBC isn't afraid of a teensey weenie marxist experiment.
Bixby beat me by seconds. I came up with the same url as him but noted it had 2012 in it. I modded the url for 2013 and it appears to cough up the same data.
Hey, no leading questions there huh?! Sounds like a genuine survey!
I filled it out with all the answers I know they don't want. The best part is, they have no way of knowing I'm not a gun owner, because they've fought tooth and nail to ban any means for anyone to know that :) I think it'd be hilarious if enough people followed suit and "trolled" this survey that they end up with useless results.
ah, yes, like that other 4 year nightmare that never happened and showed that LPierre et al are simply liars.
Lawrence O'Donnell had a marvelous "rewrite" on him a couple of weeks ago. Should check it out. His "comparison" just infuriated Lawrence and many others. And, rightly so.
Surprised Lindsey Kardashian (I mean, Graham) hasn't chimed in on this? Perhaps she is scared of guns due to her drag queen performances. Sorry... had to get that in.
A four-year nightmare for the NRA and the rest of the Gun Cult is a consummation devoutly to be wished.
4 years of nightmarish gun violence will surely prevail there Wayne, not to worry!
Somehow the fact that the people who keep accusing people of "Politicizing" the recent rash of gun violence are turning it into a fund raising opportunity...
Personally I can't think of anything that could be more crass, galling and despicable...
Today's NRA is a lobby for the gun industry period! For those members of the NRA that actually believe that anything they do is "to work for you" it's a sham and you need to cancel your membership!
Sensible gun laws, the removal of assault weapons from all but the military and magazines holding more than 7-10 bullets should not be interpreted as "taking away all guns" and sensible gun owners should recognize that fact and speak up!
Early on in "Men in Black" there is a scene with the farmer telling the bug in the crater, "I'll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands".
The bug replies, "Your challenge is accepted!"
Wayne, maybe we ain't gonna confiscate your guns, we're just gonna do us some pryin'!
Problem with that is that a lot of these people think they are in the cast of Red Dawn
Well I hope they at least think they're in the 1980s version, for Christ's sake. That one's at least marginally watchable.
Charlton Heston went on to repeat the farmer's proposal when he infamously held the NRA rally not far from Columbine.
They oppose even the most basic measures, such as trigger locks. Since when is a trigger lock an infringement on the 2nd Amendment? There are far too many kids out there who have been killed or injured with a gun in the home that could have been prevented with a trigger lock.
Yours in Freedom
Wayne La'extensiondepénis
It's why he likes really big guns....
I went to high school with Wayne. He and my brother were close friends. Very close friends.
Hmn.
Why can't MSNBC from Morning Joe all the way through The Last Word with Lawrence, post a realtime "GUN DEATH TALLY BOARD"? Something that the Right Wingers did at their failed convention last year with the "National Debt Calculator". I personally believe that it would not only give a constant reminder to the public about JUST how badly we NEED some stronger gun laws in this nation, it would move the NRA and their members to a greater degree of conviction concerning the horrific results that guns are producing in our society.
I really believe that it's worth a try and that it would produe a harvest of positive results. Please keep up the excellent work that you all are doing at MSNBC. I don't know where this Nation (or world) would be without the "fact based", hard hitting and unbiased reporting that each of your programs do DAILY!!!
THANKS RACHEL!!! UR AWESOME IN OUR WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html
I'm sorry, but the sentence that I keep reading, over and over, is this: "We will fight in the courts to overturn draconian restrictions on gun ownership that still deny this fundamental Constitutional freedom to millions of our fellow citizens." (pg 2, abt halfway down)
WHAT? What "draconian restrictions" are they talking about? Who is having their "Constitutional freedoms" restricted??? Felons. Anyone else???
I mean, the whole letter is creepy and weird, but for me this is where they completely lost touch with reality. Who on earth thinks that there are currently too many restrictions on gun ownership in this country?!?!?!
You can't carry hand grenades concealed, and you still can't mount full-auto 20 mm cannons on your Hummer. And don't get me started on the market restrictions on chain guns and Howitzers.
God forbid that we should lose the freedom to kill 30 people at a time. Can't believe how insecure these people must be.
My sacred constitutional right to own my own personal strategic nuclear arsenal to deter aggression by that @!$%# I got into an argument with at a homeowner's association meeting, and to sell and trade thermonuclear weapons at gun shows without a background check, is being infringed.
OK, Steve, I concede.
The NRA likes to say guns do'nt kill people, people kill people. It reminded me of a skit I saw on the TV show Laugh In many years ago. Every week they awarded the fickle finger of fate award. It seems there was a sewing machine company that was giving away a free shotgun with the purchase of a sewing machine. So Dan Rowan said to Dick Martin, yeah Dick buy a sewing machine and get a free shotgun. Dick replies, well that makes sense Dan, after all how can you sew someone to death. Nowadays I think the NRA would like to see you buy an assault rifle and get a free sewing machine. After all you can kill a lot more people with an assault rifle rather than a sewing machine.
Pat Paulsen best explained the need of having a gun with, “ You never know when you may be walking down a city street and spot a moose ! “
If we invented a non-lethal self defense system that made guns useless, would the NRA freak-out ?
Every single person who views firearms as a hobby, or an extension of their personality, is culpable in every single firearm-related death.
Guns kill people. That's what they're designed to do.
Whoa there... That should read "Every single person that starts a post with every single person is wrong every single time". Millions of Americans view firearms as a "hobby", and they don't harm anyone.
No, 'fraid not. And I'm not making excuses for the Lanzas and Loughners of the world. Kill? Yes. People? Not necessarily.
Believe it or not, there are places in this country where people actually go on foot instead of in cars. And when they do, they're out there with animals that are many times larger (moose, for instance) or meaner (bobcats, cougars, wolverines.) Sometimes those animals have rabies (news item this week on a family being attacked in their own home by a rabid bobcat.)
When that happens, it's a good thing to have something to change the odds in favor of the naked ape vs. the moose. I'm a big fan of this, since my partner's father was once (when she was a girl) attacked by a very bad-tempered moose while he was fishing.
So let's not go overboard, eh?
@Lebowsky Dude: "...they don't harm anyone" is another absolute statement contradicted by fact. See http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.full
"...regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home, having a gun in the home was associated with an increased risk of firearm homicide and firearm suicide in the home."
Rochester, your comment is utterly unhelpful and extraordinarily ignorant. It is comments like yours that Wayne LaPierre loves. They reenforce his argument that the folks on the left are crazy fools.
NotBlonde: Millions of Americans who own guns do indeed cause no harm with them, to others or themselves. The stastistic you quoted does not change that at all, it only points to gun safety numbers. A properly stored firearm used safely is what it is. You are of course free to feel gun ownership is so onerous that all should be banned, but you are in the distinct minority if you feel that way. Most people seem to support reasonable laws that will in the long run improve gun safety.
Well NotBlonde, that stands to reason soley on the fact that risk of firearm homicide or suicide is zero without a firearm involved. Otherwise it is just a homicide or suicide. I'm for gun control but I firmly hope (and I get let down constantly) that logic can be used to win an argument and self-fulfilling arguments are not an example of logic. Stating that there is an increased risk of drowning when the victim has to breathe is just stating the obvious.
it sounds like he gets off to freedom and is talking about obama coming to take his woman away.
also just a thought but even if there was an attack on the second ammendment, that wouldn't mean that all freedoms are under attack. but i guess that's a technicality for these whackos
Did anyone fill out the survey? I did.
Well Gordone, maybe you can confirm or refute report on the web site AWOlgeorge w, bush.com which reports that Wayne LaPierre drew a bad number for the draft during the Vietnam War and managed to avoid service due to a nervous condition with the help of his physician, since your brother was a very, very good friend of LaPierre. Based on the avoidance of that war by most GOP senators of that era, plus Limbaugh, Guliani, John Bolton, Dick Cheney, it rings true to me.
I make it a point to never fill out a survey that requires my information...when it's conducted by crazy people with guns.
Did they really think they had me at, "receive a FREE bonus gift - the NRA Rosewood Handle Pocketknife?" Oh, goody, goody, goody (clapping hands while hysterically jumping up and down).
Anyone who receives one, please send back something (not necessarily the survey; maybe a printout of this post on Wonkette) in their postage paid envelopes, that way the Post Office can charge them for it.
Wayne's group is really disturbing
Ya can't spell "paranoid" without "N-R-A"
I crack up at the idea of blaming it all on the mentally ill. No background checks, just send them to a shrink and that will determine if they are too crazy to own a firearm. What could go wrong?
The question I keep asking and never getting an answer to, except another question, is WHO is going to determine what people are sane enough to own firearms and what criteria are they going to go by? The same shrinks that claim people are "cured" or "rehabilitated" and then those "cured" and "rehabilitated" people go out and kill a dozen people?
I think the people that run the NRA and support the NRA and scream about losing 2nd amendment rights and the guvmint kicking their doors down to take their firearms away are the ones that need a mental evaluation the most.
For every criminal shooting death there is a story of a thwarted attack or home invasion to thwart it
I filled out my survey ...not necessarily agreeing with mr lapierre on everything but I'm sure they will take my check
Scott Brown won his special election basically saying we here in Ma have healthcare already why pay for somebody else's? My biggest problem with this is the states that are pushing gun restrictions are the states that already have them. Why are Ny and Chicago and LA able to tell Miami and Dallas and Houston what rights they should have Either you believe the Federal government should set uniform standards for 50 state carry and abortion rights and gay marriage or you believe the states can set those laws but you cant have both because thats the policy thats popular for you.
Actually, your first statement is contrary to fact. Incidence of self-defense gun use is much lower than other forms of gun violence.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use/
The USofA is the largest arms dealer in the world, so why are we surprised that arms manufacturers want to sell a lot of weapons and ammo. I am no big gun enthusiast, but I don't think more laws that aren't enforceable will cut down on killings. If there is a demand for guns someone will supply them.
We need to address our culture of violence and killing. We have been in some kind most of the time since WWII. We supply the arms and ammo to one side or the other in just about every war.
We execute more prisoners than any country on earth.
Our so called entertainment is mostly violence based.
I am not a member of the NRA, but I don't believe that scapegoating the NRA will solve the killing problem we have in this country.