Rachel its so great that your exposing these morons on the right. It's shame that this can't be on every channel for the whole country and world to see. GW Bush was the worst president in the history of our country. I bet his IQ is lower than a dog. I can't stand the name Bush. They would lie on there mothers grave. I can't wait to see this. Keep up the good work.

Attention Republicans: Your days are numbered.

"Fool me once shame on me.Fool.....Don't get fooled again"

I can recall Bush now..."you're either with us or against us" What kind of BS is that? Your NOT patriotic if you don't go along with murdering innocent people in Iraq? He should be IN JAIL for what he did. What a loser president.

Junior LIED to the American public, and while Saddam Hussein DESERVED to be ousted from office, WE did not deserve to HAVE TO PAY for 6 years of war, and all the deaths, injuries and consequences of that benighted misadventure! Jr should have been IMPEACHED, for Crimes against Humanity, and for malfeasance of office, but he was lionized by the idiots who buy into that nonsense, and who DON'T want to PAY taxes! Lunacy multiplied by arrogance and hubris.

can't wait to watch THIS!.. I'll share the link with everyone i know.. Bush/Cheney almost destroyed America..President Obama saved America!!!!

Thank you for not letting this go. It is a crime of tremendous import, and we are still suffering this audacity in our politics today. Until we sort out the past once and for all, our future remains at risk.

I can't wait to see the show Rachel. Nothing less than war crimes were to eventually take place by our president. And it pains me to see our current president making similar mistakes through the use of military drones. As a people, our desire for results, at any cost, tends to cloud our judgment. We simply do not have the right to run roughshod over other people in order to get what we want. Better to make sacrifices or come up with ingenious solutions than to take that which is not rightfully ours to have. It's only a matter of time before the rest of the world begins to strike back at us and take back what was rightfully theirs to begin with--and then some...

Captainkid is clearly just another forum troll. We must learn to stop responding to vapid, off-topic idiocy like the comments this man makes. Only then will rational discourse of the topics at hand be available. Please stop feeding the hungry child.

My Congressman, Mark Kirk, now a Senator, said he had "personal knowledge" that there were WMD in Iraq. He won his first re-election on that and made his opponent look pretty foolish in their debate. "You don't have the security clearance that I have. You don't know what I know." and so on. Since, and we now know that Kirk was either terribly wrong, or lying, no apology, no one has even questioned him about it.

Bush and Cheney LIED. And FOX "NEWS" sold it hard to the public and thr Right Wingers just want us to stop talking about the TRUTH that Bush and Cheney LIED and are guilty of War Crimes... well it is the truth so put your big boy pants on and deal with you Righties.

He lied to the American people like we were naive children...he lied again and again and then declared war on Iraq...HE IS A WAR CRIIMINAL. A DIRTY LIEING MURDERER.

As many say this President is taking our guns, they are wrong and if they check and do some research they find most Presidents have actually done more when it comes to weapons as Bush and Reagan did. Bush created two wars and neither one of them were needed but he did it for revenge and to help his friends who had investment in the War Machine. So why is it Republicans do not face facts and start working to help create the growth of our Nation. They promote things like the attack on Benghazi, and never mention the 12 different attacks during the Bush Administration. They do what they can to prevent passing a bill to protect people from violence, Do nothing to create jobs as the House has not worked on the jobs bill at all. The House has not worked on the bill to give Veterans a cost of living raise, but the Congress created a raise for themselves. When will we see a Country again united, working together to create those jobs and building up the Country instead of doing all they can to degrade it and stop growth? Even though most of us did not like what Bush was doing we all stood up with him and supported many of his issues.. with the exception of the wars..

A war to help his friends and one to get revenge for his Daddy.. Americans lost lives on his plots and we can't bring them back, but Bush lives on.

Bush will be remembered as the worst President in the History of this Nation.

Just my standard comment on these types of threads...how is it that the Tea Partiers spell so poorly? Captain28 with his "degree" in econ, but can't even spell? Degree? From where? Univ of Phoenix?

A good program. Though I think the behavior of Congressional Democrats is glossed over.

Congress is not supposed to be a potted plant in such matters.

In particular, I note two Senators, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton, who gave Bush a blank check and have had nothing but utter gibberish to say on this matter up to the present day.

The consequences for their incompetence is that both received promotions -- becoming our last two people in the position of Secretary of State.

You've given me reasons to distrust Republicans in foreign affairs. But not much reason to trust Democrats.

Bush is a drunk and a pathological liar who was not qualified to be president of the Glee club let alone the president of the United States. For 8 year people protected him from being discovered to be an idiot who daddy's money paid to go through an Ivy league school without having to study. If anyone should show their grades he should. He probably wasn't allowed to fly jets because he was plastered half the time and it has all been covered up because daddy has millions from the oil business. His educational prowess has been realized by the american economies demise. The fact is, if we did not bail out the banks, no business in the U.S. would have survived. Major industries would rather have their money any where but in a U.S. bank and the rich have moved their money out of the country, because they do not want the largest banks to lose it for them in some ponzi scheme. The major banks in the U.S. are about as safe as long tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs. The U.S. government will not bring a case in court against them because it would cause a panic across the country when people realized that all the investments they are foisting off are worthless. Gold is not worth 3000 dollars an ounce for no reason. The government can not get people to stop putting their money into oil because of that too, even though oil is literally under every area in the world. The only factor in the availability of oil is, can you sell it for more than it cost to drill for it. If the price keeps rising their will be oil fields in a lot of states that do not have them now. At the moment they only drill for the oil that is fairly easy to get at. Oh Diamonds are not worth much either. Any where there is a volcano there is a chance to find diamonds, including the eastern United states. It is a shame that our schools have turned into bastions of ignorance or people would know these things. Most of this stuff was taught when i was in grade school. As for the Iraq war, we did not learn the lesson in Vietnam and we are reliving it in Afghanistan and Iraq and will soon be reliving it in Iran, which would also bring Iraq back to fight us.

It's a shame that folks start out with an intellectual discussion on the morally high ground and get sucked into the discussion about Obama not wearing his little flag pin on the proper lapel, or what was done about Bengazi, etc., etc. We're not talking about gun control. We're not talking about Bengazi. We're talking about Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz/Feith LYING to the world about WMDs in Iraq, and using that pretense to commit our sons and daughters to a manufactured war. FOCUS, people. We've suffered almost 5,000 deaths, over 30,000 injuries, and trillions of dollars to satisfy this ego drive of Bush's, not to mention our credibility in the rest of the world.

Can any of the creators and perpetuaters of the Iraq War still be legally charged and indicted for war crimes and hopefully put in prison for what they did falsely to this country?

George Bush, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell and others. So many of these individuals are still held in such high esteem it is appalling. If not indicted they should be treated at the very least as Pariahs !

I saw Colin Powell giving a talk at the Dorothy Chandler in Los Angeles several years ago and when they asked for questions all I wanted to ask was ""How do you sleep at night?" It was apparent even at the time that he knew he was not telling the truth. Being responsible with your falsehoods for the death and maiming of thousands and thousands of American and Iraq people? Dear God how can any of these people sleep at night.

And how as a country can we ever put up with this?

Hey leave captainkid alone you all should know better than to argue with an idiot!

Dear Rachel--

If you read these comments, then probably the Talking Points war above will dissuade you before you get to me. I hope not.

You said several times in the run-up to "Hubris" that it would rankle some of the feathers of some politicians and the political Establishment. Maybe since they are so unused to anyone doing ANY journalism or ever daring to ask a tough question of someone in power, people actually were taken aback by your documentary. But it should have gone much further and made a lot more people uncomfortable than it did.

Everyone who isn't in the Conservative Bubble of Crazy knows that Cheney was a despicable liar and that the Administration used complete nonsense to propagandize and justify a war that was on their collective To Do list far before September 12, 2001. People who go deeper into the conspiracy theory weeds probably have a valid point that terror suspects were tortured NOT to get accurate information but specifically and intentionally so they'd corroborate the phony narrative Bush wanted, a narrative that was never based upon or relevant to the facts available to us in 2002. Although a few moments of your piece are new revelations, your viewership is already very comfortable with the story. As is the Establishment, BTW. No Bush-era Republican is losing sleep over the many anniversary recaps of the Iraq invasion that will play out over the next 5 weeks.

So here is how you could have actually rankled the Establishment and really affected the conversation. 1. Blame DEMOCRATS, and 2. Point out the elephant in the room: Corporate money.

Democrats have pleasant rhetoric about their anti-war platform, but most don't seem to oppose war when they have the opportunity. And I'm not just going back to Wilson or FDR or Truman or LBJ, all of who led us into war. More than 20 Democratic Senators voted for Resolution 1441, including many of the staples--Kerry, Biden, Hillary. Other than Lee, every Democrat also voted to go into Afghanistan. While Obama wasn't in the Senate in 2002, he has shown no hesitation to continue our wars (this is never mentioned on MSNBC, but he tried unsuccessfully to _extend— our involvement in Iraq beyond 2011, and he also has worked with Karzai to make sure we have personnel in Afghanistan until at least 2024). And Democrats have not put the brakes in any way on our Homeland Security or military expenditures, bloated, corrupt and invasive as they may be. The NDAA had massive Democratic support (93-7 in the Senate in total), and Democrats have been scrambling for months to avoid the sequestration cuts, which might be the only way to force real defense cuts. Meanwhile, our questionably-legal drone strikes, including "signature strikes" and "double taps," each of which literally involve killing people that we don't know the identities of, as well as most of the excesses of the Patriot Act, continue unabated under Obama and with very little (elected) Democratic pushback. Republicans expect that you will hammer them--that is what your network spends 80% of its time doing every day. But this story is not complete without looking at Democratic complacency and/or complicity, and the reason this is important is that the next war, very likely supported by Obama and a majority of Democrats in Congress this time also, will be the war against Iran. And many of the exact same (and probably false or at least "creatively spun") justifications will be used. By Obama.

And the story behind these wars is even more forbidden to talk about among Establishment Beltway circles, but no real account of these two political parties and actions makes sense without discussion of who is paying them. Yes, Saddam Hussein was a bad guy, yes, he had tried to kill Bush's father, yes, he was paying suicide bombers to attack Israel, yes, there were the rape rooms and the chemical gas attack, and yes, a bunch of Christian fundamentalists, naive armchair generals, Neo-Con theoreticians and jingoistic warmongering psychopaths converged on a project to whimsically turn Iraq into Missouri "in weeks, not months." But the reason we choose certain countries to attack is mostly about resources (oil in Iraq, lithium in Afghanistan). We supported Mubarek and (for a while) Khaddafi because of resources. The reason we will soon have thousands of drones over our heads, tanks we don't need, and planes that can't fly is corporate bribery, and because defense jobs are spread out into so many states, this thoroughly affects the priorities of both parties. In other words, the Iraq lead-up wasn't hubris. It was a ploy to help corporate donors, who would then pay the politicians back for their service. In nearly all cases, politicians aren't incompetent or hubristic. They're corrupt, and if it makes them more money to "do their jobs" badly, they'll do them badly. I'm still waiting for THAT documentary, not just a linear recap of a bunch of lies from people who got into office by being professional liars.

I have not read everything here because it is so full of bs, I got sick of it but just have to say to CaptainKidd.............for someone so into economics, are you not aware that worst financial crisis since the Great Depression happened during Bushes last term in 2007-2008? My God, during his whole last four years in office I could not believe that people were not seeing how many jobs were being lost every month and what ungodly amounts of money we were spending on a war that should never have happened! Furthermore, yes the first two years of Obama's admin. plunged us farther down because he was spending time on what people were most agonized over on the campaign trail. Medical costs! Blame him all you want people but all through 2012 the GDP has been growing and continues. He saved us from another Great Depression but it took many years to get us in the situation we are in and right from the beginning he promised it would not get done overnight but could take 20 yrs. Frankly I don't think we will ever climb out of this mess we are in but don't put it all on one administration! And now the GOP are playing games once more just because they do not want to add taxes to the wealthy 1% who control over 60% of our countries wealth. Where does that leave the rest of us peons>I doubt any of you here are in the 1%.......they don't bother with things like this! Arguments over who dun what are fruitless!!!!! This is just a temporary home anyway and you would be well off to turn to what your eternity will be.

It seems that at the very least, one of the panelists would have the guts to mention the phrase that says it all about the Iraqi War proponents.

That little phrase is "High Treason." By starting a war for no appreciable cause, directly causing the deaths of an untold number of sovereign Iraqi civilians, and the deaths and maiming of thousands of innocent US Soldiers and Airmen, for no reason whatsoever, completely justifies the charge of High Treason which carries with it, even in Federal Court, the death penalty. Preferably in a public trial, so everyone may see that true Justice always wins in the end. The executions should be televised throughout the world, so that America may prove that we are not above the law of our land or the laws of common decency.

Far better this than these people going through the rest of their lives making tons of money by speaking about their complicity in this extreme crime against the people of the United States and the Sovereign Nation of Iraq.

No amnesty for these people, as afforded to President Nixon by his successor President Gerald R. Ford. President Barrack Obama would have no choice but to ask for the most dire punishment so as to assuage the people of the United States and all Iraqi citizens for the crimes perpetrated against them by this cabal of evil men. The evidence is irrefutable and as perfectly clear as a pane of glass. To not try and then convict this group of people would be an even greater injustice as nothing would be learned to stop such a travesty from ever occurring again.

Rachel,

I want to thank you and those at NBC for making the documentary "Hubris: the selling of the Iraq War". It is about time those responsible for the outright lies used to promote that war are held to some account, even if it only involves their legacy.

You used a phrase in the show that caught my interest. It was about 911, where you said "motive awaits opportunity". More often than not "motive induces the need to create opportunity".

I am a 56 year old mechanical engineer who has looked into the NYC building collapses and I can say with certainty that those collapses were the results of demolitions and not aircraft impact and fire. The aircraft impacts appear to have been causal ruses to blame outsiders. I would think you are aware of the freefall acceleration collapse of WTC 7. That is what caused me to study and investigate the collapses of all three buildings. I appeared on Geraldo Rivera's show in November 2010 with the father of a 911 victim to discuss the collapse of WTC 7. The video of that 8:11 segment can be seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_gE4wZEh0g

The entire 911, Afghanistan War and Iraq war scenario clearly involves some in the oil industry as well as their operatives in government. We should be going massively towards renewable energies and I applaud your support on that front.

Sincerely,

Tony Szamboti