Indy Star reporter @MaryBSchneider is lighting up the news again today from the Indiana legislature. More on the bill about not taking video on farms here; more about the ultrasound/uterus bill here.

Indy Star reporter @MaryBSchneider is lighting up the news again today from the Indiana legislature. More on the bill about not taking video on farms here; more about the ultrasound/uterus bill here.

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What I get is that the right-wingnuts not only don't have a clue but "the Constitution" and the "freedoms" guaranteed therein only applies if you're an old, white man; no "other" need to pretend that the laws were written for them also.
With all due respect, Zora Renee, I think a more accurate way to view this is a battle for theological dominance. It has gender overtones because the RWNJ theology has gender overtones. That's why RWNJ pols say they love and respect women. What they leave out is that they only love and respect women who succumb to their theological perspective.
Traditional theology insists that its deity controls everything, so you have to accept pregnancy as a result of having sex. It considers unsanctioned sex, sex outside of their marriage rituals, to be evil and shameful. If a baby is the result, the baby becomes the indelible sign of shame. Fear of that shame forces women to conform to the theological prescription that one should not have unsanctioned sex. Abortion and contraception render this system of social control obsolete and unworkable, but the underlying theological tenet, that unsanctioned sex is shameful and evil, is still very alive.
Politicians who want to force their theology on everybody else have found various ways to shame women who have religiously unsanctioned sex and want to avoid the traditional method of stigmatization, the baby. The problem is, fanatics in the electorate elect them specifically to do this, and they are often able to summon enough superficial medical support to survive court challenges. Pointing out the hypocrisy of these jerks is pointless. their constituency knows exactly what they're doing and why, and supports it. ;-\
Their constituency knows exactly what they're doing, but the majority of us do not support it. The Republicans gerrymanded the voting districts and ended up with a supermajority in both the Indiana House and Senate. We also have a Tea Party Governor. None of the Republicans could care less that the voters don't like their shenanigans. It's the same thing that's being done to education. The wildly unpopular head of public education was voted out with 1.4 million votes, yet the Republicans have doubled down and are pushing through bills which will cripple public education.
So, Mr. Sofferclese, all the women have to do is stop having sex. Is rape still a crime in your state?
So Sarah, who fuchs you?
Here's a troll ripe for banning.
This has to be unconstitutional you can't just block off an entire industry from investigation...Think of the implications, all those local TV consumer advocacy shows and News stories would now be illegal...this goes way beyond being embarrassed on YouTube...
$5 says there is something about "not being able to bring a lawsuit based on illegally obtained video" in this
ok this is even more insane than I first thought
ho-lee-cow banned, calling for harassment of Ms. Maddow. Not a good place to do that.
All the no-video-on-farms bill is about is the fact they know that if the public ever saw how animals were treated by Corporate Agribusiness, there would be a mass change to vegetarianism. You cannot watch the treatment of animals in these situations and continue to eat meat (at least I couldn't). And the E Coli Heart Attack Industry, er, I mean the meat industry, knows this.
That's exactly what it's about, TCinLA - the atrocities are beyond belief, and just like the reason for the Animal Enterprises Protection Act, the last thing they want is for people to have access to the truth.
People who have never worked on a farm have absolutely no idea. They have become soft. Cows, pigs, chickens = meat. As long as they are dispatched humanely i'll eat them with a guilt free conscious. That being said video taping should be allowed. Oh to our vegetarian commenters. Do you drive a car? Any idea what's in vulcanized rubber?
What's in vulcanized rubber? Nothing I can see that would bother a vegetarian. Tires are vulcanized using high pressure and heat, or sulfur along with accelerants, carbon black and zinc oxide.
Care to be more specific, Donin sboro?
That being said, do you have a problem with people understanding the cost of their hamburgers? Do you think people should shy away from or be shielded from the moral and ethical costs of their decision to eat meat?
The bill is about businesses not homes. This is seriously wrong and bad. We need to allow journalist to investigate businesses. How else will people know when they are destroying our drinking water by dumping x chem into water supply? Now the film maker gets thrown in jail for showing us the truth? OMG this is bad!
Those on the right usually get really POd when someone states the ugly truth about them.
Next they will be going after gotcha videos of Republicans acting like jerks.
Maybe now you can understand why I have been calling Indiana 'The Mississippi of the Midwest' for quite a while.
After Mike '2nd stupidest person on the face of this planet' Pence was elected governor last fall, we scheduled a meeting of 'The Association of Indiana Progressives' to discuss what we could do to advance a progressive agenda in the face of repukes 'owning' (having super majorities & the governorship) the state government. Unfortunately, according to our bylaws we needed a quorum to have a meeting and we were unable to find a time when more than half of the 27 progressives in the state could meet.
Continue to watch our 'democrat' senator and how he votes. That DLC/DINO/Repuke-Lite will vote with the repukes on anything of interest to the wealthy. I live in a state that is almost as f*cked as Kansas.
Mr. Cow: please remove head from ass and turn on brain before participating. Thank you.
But thanks ever so much for the daily reminder that southern white males are lower on the evolutionary scale than amoebas.
Could I refuse a vaginal ultrasound on the basis that nobody has my permission to video my Uterine Farm?
Could we get an amendment to this...that gun buyers who do not wish to register their guns will be video taped (snapshot may do) - including all bits, not matter how small they may be? Hmmm - wonder if that would pass? Good Grief - these people are nuts!
RU486 is the morning after pill, it prevents ovulation, what the hell is he gonna take a picture of???
Sorry, saireygamp62, RU486 is the "abortion pill." It blocks the action of progesterone in the pregnant uterus resulting in abortion. I have a friend who has had to take progesterone during all of her successful pregnancies because her body doesn't make enough of it for her to carry to term.
The "morning after pill" is totally different from RU486. The only medical use for RU486 is to cause an abortion so, yes, there is something there, but it usually can't be seen in an abdominal ultrasound so early in the pregnancy because it's very small and the uterus is usually still low in the abdomen and the pelvic bone blocks the view. In order to obtain a picture of the pregnancy a vaginal ultrasound must be performed--the one with the probe that's inserted into the vagina and the sound waves projected into the uterus without the pelvic bone blocking the sound waves and the "view."
you're talking about a cluster of cells Brianna. Of course it can't be seen. No one has the right to shove a probe inside me either. My choice is not to be raped by your politics.
America gets dumber by the day...
Obviously, Indiana abortion clinics need to relocate to a farm.
This is why I dont see the support in banning assault weapons to law abiding folks. Its a constitutional right to terimante a fetus as is the right to bear arms. I just dont get it a lot more innoncent helpless fetues which would become children are killed than children by guns. I just dont see how Rachel Madow can contadict herself with a straight face. Its impossible to literaly be for terimanting feuses and against assualt weapons to law abiding citizens. Bascialy Rachael is being hypocritcal and therefore has no real actual values. Ther is no way possible a persons brain could actualy be in favor of one and against the other. That would be like saying you are in faovr of flat out killing a terroist but against waterboarding them. Its factualy impossible so with all do respect I have to say rachal Maddow canot be taking seriously.
Says the drunk man with spell checker switched off!
Personally I want to mine my back garden as an anti-cat measure. Does the 2nd amendment guarantee my right to do so? Or how about a tank in the front garden, purely for home defence you understand?
There are already controls on gun ownership which are constitutional. Assault weapons are just another type of weapon (amongst the millions) that civilians should never be allowed to own.
Yes it does as long as you break no laws. That is why we are a free country. My god if you can kill your own baby you damn well can own a weapon. Look how contradictor you are by saying its a right to kill a fetues but oh no you cant own a weapon legal. Think about that in a relistic point of view. Its a wonderful right for a woman to be able to terimante her fetus in which would become a child but oh no you cant own a assault rifle to target shoot for entertainment puposes. Sorry but this is America and we are a free country. You cant just decrimanate on who gets rights and who dont. If a woman has a right to terimante her fetus which would be a baby then a man or woman has a right to legaly own an assault weapon.
Says the anti-intellectual troll who doesn't want women to have any control over their own bodies.
Well why should a woman be able to kill and I not be able to target pratice? Kinda shoots down your troll point of view doesnt it. I mean your fine with a woman having the right to kill her own but you dont want a person to be able to have the right to have an assault weapon for target pratice. Why is a womans right more important than my right as an american? I just dont get it unless its just flat out decrimanation because telling an law abiding citizen that he cant have an assault weapon for target practice goes against your idea of a woman having a right to kill whats in her body. You cant be for one and against the other you are either for both are against both. It makes you look like a hypocrtical and descrimatory person to be in favor of a womans right but to deny everybody else their rights.
Thanks for acting like a misogynistic knuckle-dragger. It makes my job so much easier.
Another question if a woman cuts her wrist and lives through it what do we do? Do we send her to mental hospital are do we just say its your body try again? Also I do not hate woman I just think everybody should have the same rights.
Think about it long and hard I know you are very very smart but please I look forward to hearing a super smart aswer to this simple minded question?
Why does a woman get locked up in a mental ward if she tells the doctor she wants to commit suicide? I know Im a few bricks shy of a load but if its her body shouldnt she be able to control it?
I will be waitng for a super smart answer since im so dumb. I cant wait to hear the super intelluctual answer to this question.
Atta boy...don't let anybody sh!t on you...keep your mouth open!
Still waitng your super smart answer to a very simple question? Come on now you are very smart please answer the question? Your not quite as smart as you thought hun because you are full of chit. You cant give me an answer because if a woman has a right to do what she wants with her body then it should be against the law to lock her up for trying to kill herself. Oops kinda shoots down the logic of oh its her body she can do what she wants. Oh well guess you not quite as brillant as you thought? Seems that your intelligence is pretty slim because its basic common sense if she can do what she wants with her body then if she trys to kill herself it should be againt the law to lock her up in a mental hospital. The actualy fact is the fetus is a seperate body inside the woman and she is terimanting another life and not just hers. Its basic biology and fact that if no abortion is performed a child will pop out of the vagina but hey lets go after the law abiding citizens that wants to have an assault rifle for target pratice. What a bunch of dumb fks the murder by gun rate is actualy dowm. More people get killed by clubs and hammers and Im the dumb one ok whatever.
Well high rolla,
First, your language and grammer suggest you're not well educated but if that weren't sufficient, your comments are illogical and philosophically unsound arguments. A woman does have the right to decide what to do with her own body. Yes, we question suicide but can't prevent individuals from making that choice in the end. Next, the zygote and fetus aren't viable for much of the pregnancy and they certainly aren't separate.
By the way, more people do NOT get killed by clubs and hammers. yes, you're the dumb one. At least you called that right.
I know I am but it is an actualy fact that more people do get killed by clubs and hammers. I know you are real smart but you better go check that because its fact. Your right I just have a high school education but that was good enough to go in to the 82nd airborne and serve in combat so people who choose to are free to get a good education. However me being well educated in school stuff is irrelvant to the price of eggs in China. Fact is educated or not one cant be for killing a baby and against our right to own an assault rifle. It just dont pass the smell test the fetus will come out as a baby if no c section is required. You dont even need a diploma for that actualy fact. Alot of people are not well educated but serve to protect amercans freedoms so you probaly should not be to arogant about being well educated. Now the cord does have to be cut so I guess they are coneected in that aspect.
Ok just doubled checked the FBI says that more people get killed by clubs and hammers than rifles. So I guess one does not have to be as educated as you to check the actualy facts. That has got to burn a dumb vet like myself knew that fact and your well educated ass didnt. In 2005 alone the murder by clubs and hammers was 605. Murder by rilfle was 438 wow actualy facts.
I just love it when the trolls start bouncing off the walls! Makes my day!
Im just pointy out actualy facts. So you love it when someone points out actual facts that proves you are full of chit? Ok glad you love it when you are proven wrong. By all menas please go check the FBI stas on deaths by rifles and clubs and hammers.
It's also a real hoot when the trolls are aggressively proud of their ignorance.
I guess it depends on whos defintion of igonorance we use. Personlay I would say wanting to ban something that is responsible for less deaths than hammers is not only ignorance but down right stupid as hell. I mean really you are calling me ignorant but you think we need to ban assault weapons when they kill less people than clubs and hammers do. So actualy its a real hoot that you think you are the smart one. Wow banning assult rifles which kill only 400 people per year hehehehehehheheheh. However you are saying nothin about other things that kill more than 400 peopel a year hhbehehhehehehehhehehehheheh. Its really a hoot that you dont see that you are stupid as hell to want to bann something that kills less people than clunbs and hammers hhehehhehehehehhehehehhehehehh. I give up you are just to smart for your own britches.
Your belligerent anti-intellectualism totally absolves anyone of any need to deal seriously with your spewing, but you are obviously incapable of recognizing that.
You are the one ignoring actualy facts and common sense. To be so damn smart you sure are stupid as hell. In reality you are the dumb one because if you think banning something that kills less people than clubs and hammers is wise then there is no hope for you. So actualy you are incapable of reconizing that basic common sense fact. Hello if it kills less people than clubs and hammers then its not really a major problem now is it? It a bull chit manufactord false outrage over something that only kills 400 people per year. Sorry but you are just to dumb are incapable of reconnizing that fact. What it boils down to is its pure political and you know it. Now dont get me wrong its terible for anyone to be killed but its just as bad to be killed by a hammer as it is a rifle. See you are just naeme calling because I have gave you actualy facts. You cant argue witht the actual facts all you can do is name call and divert from the actualy fact that rifles kill less people than hammers this is a actualy fact. Im am done posting on this topic because I have now put you in checkmate. All you can do now is name call and divert from the truthful facts.
Your mindless rage against anyone to the left of Attila the Hun tells sensible people all they need to know about you. You are probably a lifetime member of MyFacts.com
Sofferclese: Why did you discount what Zora Renee said with your psuedo intellectual long winded explanation? You could have stopped at Theological Dominance and made the same point. White Males always have to prove their dominance, one way or the other. Too bad they run the country. And discount women every chance they get.
Bottom line: Just don't let 2014 be another 2010. Make 'em pay for this stuff.
“We don’t need vigilantes out entering people’s private property, industrial operation, factory or farm, doing things surreptitiously... for no other reason than to annoy and harass,”
Well, thank god someone is looking out for people's privacy rights! And everyone knows that sticking an electronic spying device into a woman's most private area against her will certainly doesn't fall into the category of harassment.
sounds like another self facilitated mess.
Adding to my bucket list - do not move to Indiana or Arkansas.