WOW - U=R Truly Psychotic and also sociopathic ! You are Truly an Extremely Disturbed individual !

UM - YEAH - kdj - from No-Ware - is a RE-REG ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ RE-REG !^^^^^^^^^ RE-REG !

Ah, you are right Eddie, he's now in the business of "repeating" himself, and for a moment there I thought he was a REAL person, not just a troll.....

Please give it a rest.

That's an odd comment for a post titled, "Not letting up". LOL

What you call "Bush Bashing", other people call a proper interpretation of historical facts. You know, the kind of mistakes that we should learn not to repeat by shining a strong light on them.

When the Right stops trying to rewrite & white-wash history (like saying we invaded Iraq to "liberate" the Iraqis), we'll stop going back in time to report what was actually said.

KDJ from Stuttgart -- you are, of course, free to stop reading, free to stop watching, free to stop whining, and free to go somewhere else at any time. The exit is over that way ------>

Thus adding to polarization. Which reminds me did you see the study demonstrating that MSNBC is mostly opinion and little fact. Moreso than Fox even.

http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/03/23/067246/pew-research-finds-opinion-dominates-msnbc-more-than-fox-news?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed

AMERICANS AGAINST AMERICAN GUN VIOLENCE

Those touched by gun violence, and those who will no longer tolerate bloodshed for the sake of gun industry profit, continues to grow exponentially. Distractions will no longer work.

Which reminds me did you see the study demonstrating that MSNBC is mostly opinion and little fact. Moreso than Fox even.

Reminds you, eh? LOL. Typical misrepresentation, Pooter. It said nothing about "little fact". That was all you.

It also said that FOX has more shows directed toward "news" over opinion, but what wasn't analyzed is how often that news (sic) is itself skewed towards a predisposed opinion, factually inaccurate, or just flat out made up BS.

Again, that was just you creating your own reality. Typical troll.

Did you meet any children of Iraqis killed by Bush? Of course you did. You helped kill them too. You're nothing but a patriotic war criminal.

Decent Americans are ashamed of what we did in Iraq.

Thanks Rachel......Thomas Young has it right when he wrote his "LAST LETTER" to bush and cheney......see "BODY of WAR".

Bush and his crew are war criminals.....my son spent 15 months in Iraq. He has PTSD and brain damage From rpgs going off near him. War based on lies..

Shouldn't that be black criminals will never stop killing? You will never be safe till you carry your own gun. Half the shootings in NYC are done by the cops. Who do you think is going to help you when they start shooting at you?

James Young: every dead terrorist kid is 10X less potential terrorists, you stop them before they breed you stop the entire cycle of weapons manufacturing. Here is a hint to not get killed, don't hang out with killers. Why do you think harlem is so bad, you don't take them out and let them breed.

Is that performance theater, or a skinhead rant? So hard to tell.

If it's satire, I think you need to be somewhat less subtle in the sarcasm. If it's not, then please take your own advice and refrain from breeding.

Either way, fascinating comment.

I don't recall a lot of white criminals running around harlem.

So, skinhead rant it is, then. Wow.

Ditto, onceanunmentionable!

Sooner or later the public WILL prevail.

I have not yet decided whether that is sarcasm, or not.

We do need to keep their feet to the fire, since elected politicians are more interested in keeping their jobs than doing their jobs!

You are kidding, right?

Why don't I just:

.....learn form your [right wing hate groups], they have guns and will not give them up. Maybe they know something you don't. You don't have to know why they feel that way, you should just be safe and do the same.

Actually, I would rather think for myself and know WHY I do what I do!!!

I'll vote fer anyone who promises to keep my check a comin'

Why don't you learn form your politicians, they have guns and will not give them up. Maybe they know something you don't. You don't have to know why they feel that way, you should just be safe and do the same.

Same old saw...more guns for less violence. I do actually wonder how this makes sense to anyone.

You guys sound like spoiled children "No No you can't take our guns away!"

Citing an amendment that could not fore-see the assault weapons of today. Going so far as to rail against sensible gun measures like background checks and limits on high capacity clips.

I really do believe there is something in these people that get excited by violence.

lisafp: That volunteer firefighter from the Saratoga area that was shot in the back with the AR15 that the psychotic criminal got with a straw purchase does not trivalize the SAFE Act because he is dead. He also does not quote statistics. But hey, you live on, so it's cool...right...

Ever heard of amendments? This is no longer an all or nothing proposal, with the gun industry dictating all.

AMERICANS AGAINST AMERICAN GUN VIOLENCE

Those touched by gun violence, and those who will no longer tolerate bloodshed for the sake of gun industry profit, continues to grow exponentially. Distractions will no longer work.

Slaughtered souls do not rest easy in the minds of those they've left behind.

@Lewbowsky

It is an over generalization when one makes the leap that death is trivialized if we do not take immediate steps to ban the cause of that death.

It is certainly not trivial when an individual is killed in a car accident or murdered by weapons other than firearms. We don't ban cars, but we should look at ways to reduce traffic accidents and fatalities. We don't ban every object used as a murder weapon, but we should look at ways to reduce violent death in America.

As I indicated previously, some parts of the SAFE Act are positive... but we also need to be looking more at our mental health supports in addition to supports in our schools...

and... it is because I live on as do people that I love, that I would like the measures that we take to do more than just provide us with a false sense of security.

lisafp: Nice argument you make for firearm ownership. But in the context of civilians owning military assault rifles that have no hunting utility, it's lacking, notably.

Really slacker you righties never explain just how having a gun protects you, you just yell and scream you need your gun for protection. We already settled that you having a gun doesn't stop the government from taking your rights away, you already gave up those rights when you said ok Mr Bush take away our rights if it will keep me safe from boogie men you scared me with. We also settled your nonsense that the military will join your cause on taking over the government. So again how does having a gun protect you. All having a gun does is cause you to take risks you wouldn't have taken if you had no gun, in fact a gun is only good if you surprise the bad guy you are so scared of and get your gun out before he shoots, stabs or clubs you. So reality is a gun can't protect you, why cops not only have guns they even take it a step farther and wear armor vests, they still get shoot dead. So again protection, the gun fails.

Only works if you see the "bad guy". Now tell me what does a "bad guy" look like. Ted Bundy looked like the boy next door and women were attracted to him, John Gacey was a clown in fact 99% of the bad guys look normal. So tell me just how you can pick the "bad guy" from everyone else. And you are full of crap because you don't understand humans, here is a clue humans take greater risks when they feel safe.

It takes the remarkable courage born of ignorance to post what you wrote.

Since Newtown 2883 dead from guns That enough for you.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html

What part of if it stops just one , maybe even your relative , don't you get .

You would do nothing

How many dead from auto accidents since Newtown? There's no provision for cars in the Bill of Rights, so we should force them off the road.

Oh gee wiz Hoops I hadn't thought of that . Why do we even bother with laws at all. Those useless padded dashboards , seat-belts , air bags . People should be free to die gruesome deaths in twisted metal with no safety features at all. Or be free to be gunned down for the crime of going to school or a movie.

lisafp: People on these boards know weapons, and we know law. You are the 195th troll on these comment boards who has attempted to muddy the assault weapon definition issue, so you are hardly breaking new ground. Go to Breitbart, you can be popular there...

How many dead from auto accidents since Newtown?

Welp, it doesn't get more intellectually lazy than that.

Whatever your argument is, comments like this don't help it, that's for sure.

AMERICANS AGAINST AMERICAN GUN VIOLENCE

Those touched by gun violence, and those who will no longer tolerate bloodshed for the sake of gun industry profit, continues to grow exponentially. Distractions will no longer work.

Lets try to address the true causes of violent death in America...

@lisafp I've heard this comment from 2nd adm protectors before, BUT I have yet to hear what the true causes of violent death in America are. Of all the shootings since Newton what is the cause of these shootings that we are not seeing?

@lastrth

I am talking about effectiveness. Banning assault weapons may give you a false sense of security but it's avoiding the heavy lifting...

Ok then spell out the heavy lifting we are avoiding.

This from a guy who believes a gun protects him from the unknown. Really talk about a real form of false security beliefs, I have a gun so therefor I'm safe because I can protect myself, now for the big question who is going to protect us from you wannabe John Wayne types.

@lastroth

As I indicated before. There are parts of the SAFE Act that are positive and I agree with the position taken by the NYS Sheriffs' Association.

In terms of the heavy lifting...

School reform. We are pouring vast amounts into failing schools. Increased federal dollars does not equal high quality education.

Mental Health reform. The system is not generally user friendly. People in the position to have a positive influence on a person with mental health issues confront a system that does not always make it easy to seek long term solutions/effective supports.

Addressing environmental Influences. Substance abuse, gang activity, family violence, community violence, little to no supervision of youth, lack of positive role models/activities.

Big tasks...

lisafp1@ in regards to the heavy lifting I agree with you on mental health issues. But for educational reforms the level of education attained by the more recent mass shooters was high. If you are talking about the prevalence of urban or street crime we have tried and tried to bring quality of education up to suburban standards. Which leads into your environmental influences which could take a generation or to affect change. So while we work on these two we should accept the 30 or so deaths a day as normal?

@lastroth

I think that the recent mass shooters definitely had serious mental health issues... pointing once again to the need to look at this system.

Educational system change can occur quicker... this is a key factor...we need to look at the barriers that prevent that from occurring. The change in New Orleans schools post Katrina is something to look at...

Other environmental influences need to be looked at further... how are we going to provide positive role models and activities, engage youth...

Certainly we should not accept any death... and I cannot repeat enough that there are parts of the SAFE Act that I support... but the daily loss of life that you speak about will not be measurably altered by an Assault Weapons ban...

Or the world according to Hollywood western movies in the mind of someone that never grew up enough to understand that movies were entertainment not reality. Next he will be insisting that the Flintstones was a documentary and not a cartoon. Heres a clue slacker if the shooter stops to reload there is a better chance of stopping him before he can reload. Really slacker the government already limits the amount of ammo you can hunt with to give game a fair chance of getting away. Oh and slacker if you had it your way the country would look like the middle east with Toyota trucks running the streets with armed nit wits shooting everything up.

So what most people that do shootings are not gun experts so straw man argument. Right because google will make you a gun expert in no time. Again we get the normal clap trap from dopey or is it hopey really clowns are confusing.The idiots are the ones who believe that a gun protects them yet they can never give an example of how having a gun does that, other then stupid NRA stories about the guy who saved his family. Oh and anyone who tries to say that clip size doesn't matter knows even less about weapons then someone who never fired a gun, how do we know this, rather simple really, a 30 round clip can fire 30/31 times and a 15 shot clip can be fired 15/16 times before running out, 15 times if you don't have a round in the chamber. If you found yourself on the other side of a gun you would leave a puddle under your feet as well how do we know this, simple you need a prop to make you feel safe. That is all a gun is a prop to make frightened people feel brave, the problem is you are now just armed cowards.

The only one wishing is you. It is all you have wishes and projections.

Good post Bob. Expect to be insulted.

Bob: You lose. Democrats were and forever will be called out. The difference is that they accept they were wrong, as opposed to you and the warmongers that started the utter disaster. Oh... I forgot to mention... you lose... and there is nothing below a history revisionist...

AMERICANS AGAINST AMERICAN GUN VIOLENCE

Those touched by gun violence, and those who will no longer tolerate bloodshed for the sake of gun industry profit, continues to grow exponentially. Distractions will no longer work.

Bob M

Doncha just love it when they don't read the byline.

I really told off Rachel Maddow (not)

My teatard friend ...there is a little notation at the top ...now see if you can follow ..it says

By Will Femia

Big reveal...that is who posted the article

You may be surprised but Congress does not have the info the WH has. GWB sold congress a pack of lies.

Bob! You are so defensive!! Could it be that deep down, you know HUBRIS was right? All that blah, blah, blah about the Democrats. Well, they was lied to too, just like the rest of us! Hell, even I supported that war at the time because I believed those liars!!! But it didn't take me long to figure out the truth - taking you a little longer, huh?

oncearepublican,

I supported the war too because I believed what the administration was saying. Over time it became clear there were no WMD's and all the administrations talk was not truthful. I had the thought "what kind of people are these that are sending our troops into harms war and surely many will be killed, based on lies." I lost all respect for them.

A good documentory about the Iraq War is "Why WE Fight" the 2005 version

I'm with you Tom!!!

Alpha: Nice activism there, and a great and cheerfull website you linked to. Way to call out NBC as "anti-gun", because we all know reading a blog on Saturday morning is a game changer, prime propaganda time slot. Thank goodness for your brave and fearless stance to protect your home firepower, because the rumor is that a scrawny one hundred and fifteen pound weakling can easily kick your butt. Stay armed my friend...

Too funny - apparently you like living in the extreme media bias bubble. Have a nice day.

AMERICANS AGAINST AMERICAN GUN VIOLENCE

Those touched by gun violence, and those who will no longer tolerate bloodshed for the sake of gun industry profit, continues to grow exponentially. Distractions will no longer work.

What about those touched by gun violence that don't blame inanimate objects? How are they being heard? If you ask the gun manufacturers, they will tell you that President Obama was named "salesman of the year" Liberals kneejerk reactions about guns have sold more guns and ammo in the last year than anyone. Keep up the good fight Locknpost, you are improving the bottom line for those evil, rotten stinking, rich gun manufacturers with every breath you take.

I gotta go call my stock broker now.

Liberals kneejerk reactions about guns have sold more guns and ammo in the last year than anyone.

And Conservative kneejerk reactions about guns does more to prove the point of gun control than if they could just act like socially responsible people. Well, there's that and all the people who die from gun violence every day.

Ironic, isn't it?

Cue the music for the "Why don't we ban cars?" argument. I'll let my 9 year old slap down that discussion. LOL

Yes Inspector. But your consumer base is dwindling. The sliver of paranoid Rambo-wanna-be's who stockpile can not sustain that level of profit. Consumers are becoming more savvy and responsible. Post mass slaughter reactive marketing will no longer work.

What will you do? What will you do when you can no longer depend on corner market or on-line private sales to domestic violence offenders? When you can no longer depend on arms transfers to the cartel reps waiting just outside gun shows? When you can no longer depend on sales from unaccounted dealer inventories? When the US will no longer unwittingly accommodate international unrest for the arms industry international markets?

What WILL you do? Be careful where you step...

I think that the "we don't ban cars" argument is relevant.

We don't ban cars (as the instrument of death) because we address the causal factors that contribute to death by car... such as excessive speed, substance abuse, distraction such as use of cell phones, etc. in addition to installing safety features that further address issues.

Except that cars aren't designed to kill. That's not their purpose. And that right there is what makes all these silly straw arguments fall apart.

Not that it stops gun nuts from having their debate moment epiphany. God bless 'em.

And last year in Utah more people died from suicide by gun than died in car accidents. I can see the sign now "Welcome to Utah, Suicide Capital of the World". Makes you wonder what those Mormons are so depressed about.

@Rochester

So your plan for effectively addressing violent death in America is...

So your plan for effectively addressing violent death in America is...

Education. Less guns. Stronger gun crime laws.

Ahh, Rochester... we are closer than you think. Education... yes! NYS already had some pretty serious gun laws on the books prior to the SAFE act. The process of procuring a pistol is pretty rigorous... the safety training program is very good. But one must be interested in obtaining weapons legally in order to benefit from it. That leads to stronger gun crime laws... again, we are in agreement. Less guns... we can agree on less illegal guns out there. and as I have said previously, I do agree with certain parts of the SAFE Act. Incidentally, I am not a member of the NRA and I don't agree with how far they go with objecting to certain reforms.

And then... back to the causal factors of violence...

Education is the answer to most problems, as long as we're willing to invest without immediate results, and wait for a generation before real social change. Think smoking, and seat belts. (Both of which I used to do and not do respectively with a righteous passion. Thank god for growing up and growing old without growing bitter.)

BTW, NYC Mayor Bloomberg will be on MTP tomorrow. Followed immediately by the multi-millionaire shill for the domestic weapons industry... who will be sure to tell us again in his best Concern Troll voice, that the answer to gun violence is more guns (sic). In any event, I'm expecting absolutely nothing productive from the interviews, but mostly because David Gregory is an incompetent woos.

Speaking on behalf of everyone who watches Meet the Press... boy, do I miss Tim Russert.

We agree again Rochester. MTP hasn't been the same since Tim Russert.

In terms of gun safety education, at least in NYS, a hunter/gun safety course is a requirement before one can secure a hunting license and a firearms safety course is required before one can apply for a pistol permit. Those are immediate. Good model to follow.

In terms of our educational system at large, change can happen as fast as we are motivated for it to occur...

Last months shortage at Walmart continues this month too. And will continue until liberals stop trying to pass unconstitutional (be it percieived or otherwise) legislation. Right now there people that never owned a firearm before buying at record rates because of all the crap stirred up by liberals in there quest to "feel" like they are doing something worthwhile.

BTW Global warming is not a myth. The myth is that it is caused by capitalism. Climates continually change on this planet regardless of what the evil capitalists do. Regardless of what socialists do.

Last months shortage at Walmart continues this month too. And will continue until liberals stop trying to pass unconstitutional (be it percieived or otherwise) legislation

Look, it's snowing!!! Based on this, snow shovel sales will only improve all the way through summer. LOL @market nonsense.

In full disclosure, I don't shop at Walmart if I can help it, and for a whole bunch of reasons, not just because of the chance encounter with people like you.

The myth is that it is caused by capitalism.

WTF. Seriously... I don't know what that's supposed to mean.

and how do you propose to get rid of the millions of guns that there are?

just asking...

I took locknpost's comment to be about the gun manufacturers disregard of their product to be used wisely. The product should be used by someone that can be proved competent to use it.

The alcohol industry does this often in their commercials. Drink wisely and use a designated driver.

I have never seen the gun manufacturers promote keeping guns out of the wrong hands.

The product should be used by someone that can be proved competent to use it.

But in their own minds, they all think they're competent. Just like everyone on the road is an awesome & excellent driver... in their own minds. (And please for the love of god, that is not a guns = cars analogy, it's a analogy of arrogance.)

You know, as much as legal gun owners are part of the problem because they encourage an industry that produces lethal weapons, I really don't put the blame on them directly. This Inspector dude, wild-eyed and so often wrong as he is, isn't the primary problem.

It's the lack of accountability for the sale of guns and the ability to track a gun's history of ownership. That, coupled with a gross lack of law enforcement.

Still, less guns, smaller mags and a first-line of defense with universal background checks... that's a good start towards a safer community.

Rochester12,

I wasn't trying to make a guns, cars analogy. I was trying to compare industries. The gun manufacturers and alcohol manufacturers.

I'm just trying to put a focus on the gun manufacturers. I believe that is where the problem starts.

I know, man. It was me who made the analogy, but in a completely different context than the typical nonsense.

No worries.

Well crazy people believe they are sane and everyone else are insane. And our GOP paid trolls prove it in everyone of their posts.

Whomit.....where have you been?

Whomit.....where have you been?

I'll bet he hasn't been looking for a job!!!!